"China is a huge social experiment at scale, with wide-scale surveillance and monitoring – in other words, data."

So the population control that a communist dictatorship utilizes is really all just an experiment in data collection?

So these are all benign? President Xi abolishing term limits, Uyghr detention, Chinese social credit system, massive surveillance, disappearance of chinese citizens (famous or not), quick summary executions of "corrupt" party members, huge arms build up, artificial island building, aggression against Taiwan, rampant IP theft.

The US and the west in general have some big problems, but the fawning praise of China by the tech industry is absurd. And another thing, HN has too many Chinese nationalists who act as apologists for egregious actions by the Chinese government.