soup is from sanskrit supa attested in arthashastra of kautilya dated to 1st millennium BC by westerners and 2nd millennium BC by indians
see link for specific quote from the text: http://www.alexmthomas.com/2016/05/22/a-review-of-trautmanns...
lack of any attestation kills all PIE claims
whereas sanskrit is a solidly real language with a lot of evidence that it dates back to 4th millennium BC or even much further back for the rg veda
evidence that is vociferously ignored or censored in the west for various reasons
so the tactic of making sanskrit a daughter language of PIE is not accepted
You seem to be a bit emotionally attached to this? I for one like imagining that such a vast and diverse bunch of peoples may go back to just a couple of families crossing deserts, jungles and plains together.
how europeans got their language is not our problem
neither the yamnaya r1b z2103 nor sintashta r1a z2125 amounted to much in world history and the sintashtans were just scythians or what we called shakas
these geneticists are just looking for keys under the streetlight ignoring actual evidence
rest of the dna debate is massively hyped propaganda and search for relevance and funding
ctrl f supa in the link above i believe the dish described is basically the same
and the arthashastra in any case outclasses all other attestations even if you take western dating
the pushback on this etymology is seemingly more than even for the word cash which is also an indian word but the english would even prefer to credit the french for it than indians
french caisse is a tangential link at best while tamil cash is actually cash and got printed on coins as such and derives from sanskrit karsha a measure of weight also attested in arthashastra and so of similar age
"Basically the same" as what? "Soup" is a very broad term encompassing many, many dishes.
> and the arthashastra in any case outclasses all other attestations even if you take western dating
The Arthashastra is supposedly from the 2nd century BCE[1], but even if it's as old as Sanskrit itself[2], it still comes at least 15,000 years after the first evidence of soup. Soup is older than any language that's known today. Why would other cultures suddenly start using a Sanskrit word for a food that they've known and enjoyed for thousands of years?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rice#Etymology
but last time i tried mentioning that someone accused me of hindu nationalism and the banhammer was gonna fall
providing a link for this is what got me accused last time so just search for how old is indian agriculture on your fave search engine
in any case the chinese word is mi and has no linguistic relation to the word rice
even the japanese call rice with a mix of the chinese and indian words
I'm not suggesting a Chinese origin of the word. But I suspect this may not be the final answer. First, the Mandarin Chinese pronunciation of the character "mi" (rice) today may not be the same as what it was pronounced 10,000 years ago. Second, people who lived in the Yangtze River Valley back then might not be speaking a Sinitic language. They might be speaking a Kra-Tai language.
> just search for how old is indian agriculture on your fave search engine
Pretty sure there were multiple origins of agriculture (e.g., Mesopotamia and Levant among others). It is difficult to argue which place came up with agriculture first.
rice entered europe as oryza not all that long ago and the link to tamil arici is straightforward and heavy trade existed between rome and india such that we keep finding hoards of roman era coins in india
romans were even complaining of a trade deficit with indians and emptying of their treasury
> Internet and satellite communication had existed in the days of Mahabharata. How could Sanjaya (the charioteer of King Dhritarashtra in the epic) give a detailed account and description to the blind king about the battle of Kurukshetra? It means internet was there, the satellites and that technology was there in this country at that time”
> Mr Deb said that while European nations and the United States may claim to have invented the internet, the technology mostly began in India and was built by its people.
> "Internet and satellite system had existed in India lakhs of years ago. The richest culture belongs to our nation and I feel proud of it"
Don't pick up things from some where and say related.
There were always some people who talk rubbish, there is no need for you to take the job of spreading it.