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And TouchId. And FaceID. And Apple Watch. And Airpods. And Apple Pencil. And TrueTone. And Swift. And the new file system.

Anybody who thinks Apple isn’t innovating is an ignorant jackass.

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All of these things are true but none of those have even come close to the way they moved the needle with the phone/pad.

Of course let's count the number of years it took them to get there from the newton. You can't just shit out a new groundbreaking ecosystem/product every year like clockwork. If you try 99% of those will be huge misses.

Apple Watch is dominating the wearables space.

And the level of sophistication and complexity in the Series 4 version is really impressive e.g. ECG, Heart Rate Monitor, Siri, Apple Pay.

Exactly they cannot keep inventing the wheel.

> Apple Pencil

huh...not a joke

Not an artist, but apparently the pencil is way better than the pen and tablet solutions shipped by companies like Wacom. And apparently the new version could possibly be the smallest inductive charging system yet produced.

> And apparently the new version could possibly be the smallest inductive charging system yet produced.

I think that title is still held by Samsung's Note 9 stylus.

None of those are innovations, merely entering a market space that already existed. Sure, they've done that in the past with the phone...but they crafted it so well it put everyone to shame. Outside of the Apple Watch the others in your list haven't really pushed boundaries. Even the Apple Watch has a lot of gimmicks that no one uses and things like the Fitbit can easily mimicked at a much lower cost.

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