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Input latency, I can understand. Web latency, at least you know what you are paying for (trackers, fonts, bloated stylesheets, MBs of JS libraries...). But core software latency, that is pure madness.

Android share menu: what on earth takes 500ms-2000ms to display a menu??

Android scrolling: I could have a smoother scrolling if I rendered the view on a wall in Doom III. Why on earth is the scrolling process not prioritized above everything else?? iOS got this right.

Microsoft Outlook on Mac: it can teak easily 2000ms to close(!) a window, are you kidding me?

My new 2018 Touchbar Mac does not "feel" any faster than my old 2013 retina Mac, while the paper specs and benchmarks show at least 100% increase in computational power. They can both equally easily choke down on some unwanted Skype update or stupid WebEx video stream (yes, I work in corporate).

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Amen, the Android share menu. Seems like it tries to go through the entire history of my previous shares to see what is most popular, then asks every app that enables sharing to list their respective sharing targets. Some of these apps also checks which of its own sharing targets are most popular (like the sms app and Messenger). Finally it renders a long list that to me feels random each time and not always relevant. /End rant

I recently learned I could long press share targets and pin them. So the fine I actually use in the list of a couple dozen actually show up first now.

Woah, TIL. Thank you!

Which, infuriatingly, is disabled in some tier-1 Google apps, including Youtube and Google News.

Great tip! Thanks!

The canonical article

https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/05/05/google-please-fix-a...

Office on Mac is garbage - I had someone told me that it remains single-threaded on Mac which would explain this.

I find my Pixel (v1) surprisingly fast given its age and have no plans to replace it currently, although the share menu slowness is weird. It happens any time the device has to enumerate the list of installed apps—like loading the apps page in settings—, which bizarrely it doesn't seem to cache.

From what I know, the gui rendering has to happen on the main thread, not another spawed thread on OSX. I'd guess that's a contributing factor.

I also work in corporate - my 2017 Touchbar feels insanely slower than my partner's 2013, or sometimes even my late 2011.

Not to mention the awful keyboard and non-upgradable parts.

Outlook is a nightmare - heck, the Office suite has been awful essentially since it's rewrite from being PPC-only for 2008.

Not only did we have to wait way too long for a native Intel version / Universal Binary - but when it arrived, it was slow and clunky on both pieces of hardware.

But worse than office - our entire team is now being migrated to cloud-based email that virtualizes itself in an IE window, and responds to clicks and scrolls about 40% of the time.

It looks awful, it performs awful, I've never experienced quite a terrible piece of software. Weird, virtualized, Office 365 - unless you're on Windows, I couldn't imagine this working for you.

Microsoft Outlook on Mac: it can teak easily 2000ms to close(!) a window, are you kidding me?

On my new 8th gen i7, restoring a Skype for Business window (from the task bar, so it's already running), I've measured at sometimes in excess of 10 seconds for it to restore. No other application I use exhibits such horrible performance.

I can see the typing latency in the latest version of Outlook, too, when composing an email. And don't even get me started on web-based Outlook, the performance is abysmal.

Not sure what's going on at Microsoft lately, but something very, very wrong has been happening for 3-4 years now.

Microsoft Teams is similarly bad. Also, multiple seconds to switch views in app. I really, really hate it.

On the other hand, my 2018 MBP feels MUCH faster. I think it's the faster read write on the SSD.

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Can you expand on this?

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