Anti-vax movement blamed for 30% jump in measles cases worldwide
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Where I live, the healthcare minister peddles placebo pills, cause she has a share in the business, and the secret services have their own media to "leak" private data of politically dubious people.
Every consistently christian family have many memories of government repressions. Most MDs talk to you as a cop in a bad Milwaukee neighborhood to a black teenager.
There are many good reasons to avoid any contact with the officials.
I'm not an anti-vaxer, but in a country where any slightly marginal social group is still alive in spite of the government, you can't blame them. It's a sound Bayesian strategy.
And the HN ideal should be to rigorously investigate even a logical inference like that. Yet when a post does just that, it’s met with a racist suggestion that middle eastern migrants are causing the uptick. No citations.
Very disappointing reaction.
Ways that don't involve a government registry, ways that don't involve police demanding papers, ways that don't involve mandatory behavior modification with negative reinforcement.
My instinct is to not resort to a knee-jerk presumptive desire to punish, because I feel I don't have enough dominion over my peers. I'm not interested in throwing more people in jail. I'm not interested in more traffic tickets. I'm not interested in putting my kids in another database.
Sorry, track your mandatory compulsory military draft in some other place. Raise your own kids far away from mine, thanks.
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> I'm not interested in putting my kids in another database.
Shot records have been a thing, in the US at least, for decades. This is not a new thing.
>Sorry, track your mandatory compulsory military draft in some other place.
What the fuck does this have to do with anything I said?
> Raise your own kids far away from mine, thanks.
Yea, since it seems like your kids will be getting the measles (or worse), gladly.
I'm not against medical intervention. I think vaccinations are a good thing.
I'm against government mandated familial interventions.
I think there are 1,000 other more important things the government could be doing to improve people's lives. Alarmist, breathless hand-wringing about personal medical choices or parental responsibilities isn't the only way to approach pandemics or public health issues.
The last thing we should be doing is using government resources to apply retaliation or punishment. There are plenty of reasons to inflict harm, take money away from people, and generally stifle the hell out of people with laws, and all of them get over used, and just simply spread misery. This gives people more reasons to rationalize and passive-aggressively resist anything with a government's fingerprints on it.
Meanwhile, you said it yourself: those who do get vaccinated have nothing to fear. They'll live lives untouched by disease, so it's none of their business what happens to the rest. For the vaccinated, this is already a non-problem by default.
I also think vaccinations are a good thing, but your original comment didn't come across that way.. In fact, it came across as being completely off topic.
You are creating a unnecessary society debt by ideology. Illogic behaviour creates a damage to the allmende, that is redistributed in small quantities on the back of all of us.