If Encryption Laws Go Through, Australia May Lose Apple

It would be nice if there actually /was/ some major blowback. Maybe it would make elected officials in other countries think twice about doing similar stupid shit like this.

I doubt it would, but I can hope.

What is the scope of this law with relation to foreigners? I do not think the bill mentions that only Australians can be targeted by the inquiry from the government - it mentions any person who develops software allowing people to communicate. To me, this means that the government can reach out to any person in the world, and, if they tell anyone or refuse to cooperate, they commit an Australian crime, in which case, extradition may be requested and occur, leading the person to be brought to Australia, judged, and imprisoned there.

IANAL and I do hope that my train of thought is horribly wrong somewhere, because if the above is true, then every software developer in Argentina, Austria, Belgium, Brazil, Chile, Ecuador, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hong Kong, Hungary, India, Indonesia, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Republic of Korea, Latvia, Luxembourg, Malaysia, Mexico, Monaco, Netherlands, Norway, Paraguay, Philippines, Poland, Portugal, South Africa, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey, United Arab Emirates, United States, Uruguay, Venezuela, Vietnam, Albania, Bolivia, Colombia, Cuba, El Salvador, Guatemala, Haiti, Iraq, Liberia, Nicaragua, Panama, Peru, Romania, San Marino, Yugoslavia, Akrotiri and Dhekelia, Anguilla, Antigua and Barbuda, Bahamas, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belize, Bermuda, Botswana, British Antarctic Territory, British Indian Ocean Territory, British Virgin Islands, Brunei Darussalam, Cayman Islands, Cyprus, Dominica, Falkland Islands, Gambia, Ghana, Gibraltar, Grenada, Guyana, Jamaica, Kenya, Lesotho, Malawi, Maldives, Malta, Mauritius, Montserrat, Namibia, Nigeria, Pakistan, Pitcairn, Henderson, Ducie and Oeno Islands, Seychelles, Sierra Leone, Singapore, South Georgia and South Sandwich Islands, Sri Lanka, St Helena, Saint Helena, St Kitts and Nevis, St Lucia, St Vincent and the Grenadines, Swaziland, Tanzania, Trinidad and Tobago, Turks and Caicos Islands, Uganda, Zambia, Zimbabwe, Slovenia, Bosnia, Herzegovina, Cambodia, Canada, Cook Islands, Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Fiji, Iceland, Japan, Jordan, Kiribati, Kyrgyzstan, Lebanon, Lithuania, FYR Macedonia, Marshall Islands, Montenegro, Nauru, Papua New Guinea, Serbia, Slovakia, Solomon Islands, Thailand, Tonga, Tuvalu, United Kingdom, Vanuatu and Western Samoa [1] may now be forced by Australian law to commit espionage against their will.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extradition_law_in_Australia#C...

Throughout history, the movement of Empire has been Westward (so much so it basically is Eastward almost).

Persia, Greece, Rome, Amsterdam, Britain, America...???

A kind of mythical future prediction I’ve heard is that of Australia emerging as an empire. An Atlantis like New America with the similar protection of large oceans. Perhaps India as well (notice the continuity of the old English Empire). Rugged mountains to the North for defense, and monsoon swept oceans to the South as well.

Anyway sucks that they passed this bill, kind of like the Clipper-chip in the US in the 90’s...

What does this mean for Fastmail users? Is it that government data access requests no longer have to be disclosed?

That's a pretty loaded headline.

How about: Apple may lose Australia?

Nothing in the article substatiates or even mentions the headline about Apple. Apple operates iCloud in China where Chinese government has keys to decrypt everything.