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Given the future doesn't look very bright for Intel, given ARM at one hand and AMD at the other (with their 10 nm and 7 nm having multiple setbacks) I wouldn't count on Intel doing well in the future. It might end up like Nokia or Microsoft. I wouldn't invest in Intel...

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Umm Microsoft?

Microsoft Windows is losing relevance, and Microsoft has been unable to leverage any market position with Windows Phone.

But Microsoft has been successfully repositioning itself as a cloud provider, it will be a few decades before they become irrelevant.

Microsoft is #1 company by market cap right now. Its... kinda weird to claim that they're dead and/or dying.

I never said they're dead or dying. They're losing relevance because they're losing their dominant (monopolist) market position (Windows and Office).

If Intel loses their dominant monopolist market position in the processor market but stays relevant in e.g. the GPU, network card, SSD, and what have you business then I (from my consumer PoV not paying too much plus ethical PoV) am happy. But the shareholders would gain far more from a dominant monopolist market position...

Latest news is that Intel's 7nm is doing quite well, and is on track to start high volume manufacturing in 2h 2019. And given that Intel 10nm is roughly comparable to TSMC 7nm, it's certainly possible that Intel will regain their process advantage very soon.

There are caveats in the above statement, but I certainly wouldn't bet against Intel.

> Latest news is that Intel's 7nm is doing quite well

This was the very first time I ever heard of this. Do you happen to have a source?

I think parent typo'ed. Latest news is volume production for Intel 10nm (~ TSMC 7nm) in 2H19.

He's probably referring to the likes of this:

https://www.anandtech.com/show/13683/intel-euvenabled-7nm-pr...

You've quoted a press releas by Intel on how Intel is awesome and there is no problem and everything is peachy.

Not the most trustworthy source of info, I may say.

Press releases are material statements; if Intel is lying or being unrealistically optimistic then investors can sue them and likely win.

I got a bridge to sell you if you think press releases are reliable sources of information.

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