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Huawei Is China’s Black Mirror Corporation

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The brilliance of having Canada do the arrest is actually breathtaking. This way the US still gets to fire a shot across the bow of the PRC while Canada (my country) suffers the "grave consequences" with a trading partner we can't afford to piss off.

If we blink, it's grounds for messing with us in the ongoing NAFTA revision debacle, and if not, then China takes a chunk away.

Either outcome makes us more pliant on issues ranging from cannabis laws, immigration, trade, LGBTQ rights, etc.

moral of the story: don't build complicated legal system integration with a foreign power.

USMCA, the replacement for NAFTA is already in place. Theres no debacle.

oh, cool! thanks for update

But it hasn't yet been approved by the Senate.

It is not “in place”; it is signed but unratified (by all three parties.) Trump has recently threatened NAFTA withdrawal to create pressure for USMCA ratification.

Interesting

What has Huawei actually done beside speculation? Where's the evidence of their 'black mirror'-ness?

Not that Huawei aren't capable of going that way, but I'd have thought Tencent's WeChat/Tenpay and Alibaba's Alipay are already heading in more overtly 'Black Mirror' directions[1]? Or maybe to put that another way, I would think software is going to have an easier time making the future scarier than hardware...

1: https://radiichina.com/the-results-are-in-wechat-is-taking-o...

2: https://qz.com/1097766/i-fixed-my-poor-sesame-credit-score-b...

It's more that every tech company in china has done 'black-mirror' type things. Thats not including the social credit score which is obviously a black-mirror thing the entire tech sector is participating in.

USA falling behind in technology can't take the pressure. Free trade is no longer cool, and taking hostages is acceptable.

Meng arrest is clearly personal.

Also for blackmirror we already have google, facebook, amazon, verizon, nsa, gchq, cia, drones ...

Agreed. Although I would argue playing China's game on free trade may be a good strategy. But what do I know?

It's a sad state when you have US senators with foreign spies working for them, crumbling infrastructure, and a culture more focused on who the president slept with and diversity quotas than getting things done.

We're fucked

And what is Facebook?

White Mirror. :)

Funhouse Mirror.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distorting_mirror

And what about ZTE?

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