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Between their enormous scandal in South Africa, the rather reprehensible work in Saudi Arabia that likely got some dissidents killed and all of this, it does feel like many shoes are yet to drop. The article details some pretty obvious conflicts of interest that are simply not viewed as such:

"McKinsey says it has no knowledge of any collusion between China and Mr. Najib. It said that of course it would discuss China’s sweeping Belt and Road plans but rejected the notion that, by representing both sides involved in the project, the company had a conflict of interest in any way."

As with Silicon Valley, their model requires recruiting reasonably talented and intelligent people on a regular basis. I suspect that, if anything, may be the most at risk from the behavior these articles are highlighting.

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McKinsey ultimately can get away with far more mediocre people than Google. Google has to keep the website up at the end of the day — McKinsey just needs to make a slick PowerPoint.

i've heard from a friend who works in MC that they outsource their slides so they can come in the next day with a completed slide deck

You’re probably thinking of design. Consultants will assemble the deck contents then ship to an offshore contractor to pretty them up overnight.

They have teams in India who generate the slides. They’re really good, but I’m pretty sure most of the are generated through some tool.

Usually uniformly excellent slides are outsourced to somebody. I have a few friends who have a patreon person do almost all of the PowerPoint slinging.

It's usually an internal research team, specialised in a vertical, say Energy or transportation that prepares the material for the consultant. Still, most good management consultants are good at creating docs, excels and ppts. And they are good reading/sifting through the data quickly; just like a senior software engineer can navigate and grasp code more quickly.

The larger issue that I find with management consulting approach though is that they use the same set of tools to create solutions for ALL problems. They will throw in some charts, finance numbers, pas research etc. to sell a 'story'. They usually don't work on implementation but to present the first part of the solution. That's not how every problem should be solved IMHO. McKinsey et al. can make things easy for bureaucrats or government people to grasp, but to be honest their suggestions seems pretty ridiculous at times. Just look at some of the articles they have written about software industry and how out of touch it seems. Most of their solutions on social issues and such fields are rather ridiculous too. So I would hire an ex-consultant as an employee, no problem. But I wonder if I would ever want to outsource work to a Management Consulting company.

The cynic in me reads the headline and thinks at least half of the commissions they take from authoritarian dictatorships and dubious corporations will have a neutral or negative impact on those dodgy clients anyway, since the bulk of their work is providing quasi-independent justification for a solution management already favours, for internal use only and at expensive rates.

Take the extreme case from the article: Yanukovych's attempts to portray himself as a moderniser looking for greater ties with the West ended with him being overthrown after mass public protests at his decision to suspend planned agreements with the EU under economic pressure from Russia (with the West largely approving of his overthrow and Russia treating him as largely irrelevant to their own subsequent intervention in Ukraine). If McKinsey contributed significantly to his reform strategy at all, it's very hard to say they actually helped him in the long run.

As it was explained to me the purpose of the management consultant is not to solve the problem, but to take the blame for solving the problem.

The Internal politics of most reasonable sized corporates are Byzantine to say the least. Senior management might not have the political capital to drive change through an organization, don’t want to take the blame if the change does not work, or just want to signal that they are doing something, without taking responsibility for said something.

Hence...management consultants... and the pricier and the more prestigious he better.

Not quite. There’s an outsourced team to make the slides look good, but the content typically comes from the consultants themselves.

The Saudi Arabia item was overblown. Someone made an example of finding clusters around social networks that happened to identify people opposed to some government idea. It was not prepared as client work.

Generally in consulting you do have people working for both sides of an issue (commonly a supplier and a buyer, for example). There are heavy handed rules about preventing people working on or who have worked on projects for either side from discussing the issue to avoid this. Assuming normal controls work as intended, the conflict of interest is generally handled sufficiently.

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