The man is articulated but nothing of what he says brings anything to my mind. Maybe he's just too smart.. but I can't discern from overenginered pub talk.
He’s very articulate, and not only does he make a lot of sense, I’ve never seen him caught in a lie.
And I have no idea what makes you think it’s pub talk, I’m from the land of pubs (Ireland) and I’ve never heard anyone talk like he does in one.
“Can’t discern from overengineered public talk” is plausible, but it would be very unusual to phrase it that way.
It’s not really clear that he meant "public."
[1] he seemed to have human values and of course knowledge about the topic