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Ive noticed this too alot lately and I've actually started to question if our ideals are really moral.

I think we have a very serious conversation ahead of us as a culture.

Are we the bad guys?

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Well that's interesting but its a little bit different from what I am talking about because I personally don't question most of the supposed American ideals (at least as I see them). Really I'm talking about actions rather than ideals.

Is there anything more “bad guy” than espousing high ideals which run contrary to centuries of actions? Still at some point you’d hope that people notice the disconnect and feel disturbed.

“Hans... are we the baddies?”

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hn1VxaMEjRU

We've avoided that conversation for two hundred years, why is it ahead of us now? If anything, blind patriotism makes it easier to ignore.

Every single time I mention something good about any country other than the US to my relatives they get SUPER angry and shout "Then why the F* don't you move there".

It is so confusing to me. Not saying I love the US but if someone did... shouldn't they want to improve it?

They don't want it to be good they want to feel good about it. Introspection makes them angry. This toxic anti-intellectualism is sadly common and has been promoted by people in power for ages. One would think an advertising culture is to blame but given that it happens even in the absence of it it totally predates it. Probably tribalistic.

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