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It's definitely creepy to hear Cosby talk about Spanish Fly and then combine it with the revelations that came later. I can't say in all honesty that it would have been considered creepy back then though. I've never heard anyone say the Beastie Boys were creepy for singing about it in Brass Monkey:

"Me and the crew we're drinking Brass Monkey This girl walked by she gave me the eye I reached in the locker grabbed the Spanish Fly I put it with the Monkey mixed it in the cup Went over to the girl, "Yo baby, what's up?" I offered her a sip (sip) the girl she gave me lip (lip) It did begin the stuff wore in and now she's on my tip "

I don't think you could say that in 2019.

OK; I'll bite. Those are creepy lyrics. They were creepy then and they are creepy now. Beasties probably meant it as a joke as they, to my knowledge, don't have a rep as being otherwise creepy but I'm going to go out on a wild limb and say that if you don't think people talking about drugging people so they have sex with you isn't creepy you're not a woman and/or you don't really have much empathy with them either.

This doesn't mean there isn't potentially funny jokes to be made here, as comedy can go everywhere. Some of Sarah Silverman's stuff is super-dark and still funny. But this idea that people invented the notion of "getting all upset over rapey stuff circa 2017" is ridiculous - it's just more that recently people started listening occasionally to victims.

I agree they're creepy. I disagree that not finding it creepy means you're not a woman or have no empathy for women. I know tons of women who love the Beastie Boys and I've never heard a single person complain about or even comment on Brass Monkey lyrics.

Just to go off on a bit of a tangent: There's something to be said about the past being inappropriate today. We should have 2 Live Crew post lyrics from their 80's and early 90's material on Twitter and see how quickly they are outcasted from society.

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