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There processor design technology is ahead of the rest of the industry. The iPhone 6s from 2015 was faster than all 2018 Android phones in single core performance.

When you go down to processors like the ones in the Apple Watch or the AirPods, no one comes close to the size/power. There is a reason all Android watches are big ugly monstrosities.

You realize as far as marketshare, iOS has close to 50% in the US and well over 30% in most other industrialized nations. There is no exclusivity to owning an iPhone in developed markets.

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I had thought Apple's smartphone market share peaked in the 20% range. I stand corrected.

I’m only referring to “industrialized”/“developed” countries like the US, Japan, Western Europe, etc.

https://deviceatlas.com/blog/android-v-ios-market-share

Benchmarks don't matter. They're both snappy and useable. Android has far more features and variety, though.

Watches are dying. The reason Android isn't trying is because it's a passing fad.

The mid range Moto G that my son had was far from snappy and that was usually hailed as a good midrange Android phone.

But now you sound like Mac users back in the Mac 68K and PPC days.

Apple Watch sales have increased not decreased.

You could’ve just said non-Intel.

You're comparing a Moto g to an iPhone? That's double the price.

I’m comparing a a 2018 Moto G to a 2015 iPhone.

The iPhone from 2015 will probably be getting updates longer than the 2018 Moto G.

Again, you are comparing a phone that was half the price at launch. Operating systems evolve. Just because a phone is newer, doesn't make it snappier. There are far more things running on Android and iOS by default than there was 8 years ago. Try comparing the 2015 iphone to a galaxy s6.

Here is a benchmark comparison.

https://www.ubergizmo.com/products/lang/en_us/devices/iphone...

Both phones were around the same price at launch.

The iPhone 6s is still supported and still getting os upgrades and security patches - the Galaxy S6 isn’t.

The iPhone 6s should get at least one more year of upgrades but considering the iPhone 5s is two years older and still getting updates I would bet on at least two more years.

Long term, which is the better but?

Btw,

Here is a comparison between the flagship Galaxy S9 to a two year iPhone 7.

https://9to5mac.com/2018/03/01/iphone-versus-samsung-benchma...

Again, those benchmarks mean nothing. User perception does. And "updates" are a farce. What kind of updates are you waiting for from Apple? Is there a huge feature that you just can't live without?

Btw, your link shows how much better the Galaxy phone is. But if you choose your phone based on which has higher benchmarks rather than things like a better camera, to each their own.

Android is not exactly known for its buttery smooth interface...

https://www.theandroidsoul.com/how-to-fix-galaxy-s9-lag-and-...

https://superpowered.com/android-audio-latency-problem-just-...

Not to mention all of the security vulnerabilities that don’t get patched.

The advantage of updates is that it encourages app developers to take advantage of the latest features. For instance, the author of Overcast, my favorite podcast app could release a new version that required iOS 12 a month after it came out without having to lose any customers - anyone who could run iOS 11 could run iOS 12.

As far as updates, just the integration of shortcuts and Workflow has done wonders in iOS 12.

Link to your list of unpatched security vulnerabilities please.

And apple lags just as much.

https://qz.com/1162402/why-your-iphone-feels-slower-after-ea...

Shortcuts is a weaker version of Tasker. You could have switched to Android and had that 5 years ago.

It’s not that Google doesn’t patch vulnerabilities, is that between the phone manufacturers and the OEMs that the patches sometimes never reach the older phones or sometimes no update reaches the phone.

As far as “batterygate”. Batteries degrade over time. Either Apple slowed the phone down or the phone shuts off.

> Benchmarks don't matter.

They Do, up to a certain level, and we haven't quite reach there yet across all spectrum of devices.

> They're both snappy and useable.

They are not.

>Watches are dying. The reason Android isn't trying is because it's a passing fad.

The data tells a completely different story.

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