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I do use the Intel GPU for all things graphical. But as I stated, I require the proprietary nvidia driver as well. Your issue policy is "If the nvidia module is loaded on your system, you are not permitted to file bugs of any sort" (https://github.com/swaywm/sway/issues/3039). From this, I can only infer that your attitude is to childishly exclude a large segment of users (owners of optimus laptops) on whose hardware free drivers are loaded, but who also have some use (which is none of sway/wlroot's concern) for their second nvidia GPU.

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You should actually read the comment that was linked in that issue as well:

> [...] if using hybrid graphics where the primary is Intel and the secondary is nvidia, sway would continue to work (just without nvidia monitors) and the user would never see the log message. Then they're likely to create issues related to outputs not working, causing us to invest time in troubleshooting it, only to find that they are using nvidia and never saw the warning."

So yes, you can run sway with the nvidia module loaded, just please unload it and test again before you report bugs.

  > So yes, you can run sway with the nvidia module loaded, just please unload it and test again before you report bugs.

If that were the language used in the issue tracker, then fine. It's sensible to request that users reproduce the bug with the proprietary driver blacklisted before reporting. But the attitude they're projecting is hostile and unconstructive. The bug tracker says:

  > If you are using the nvidia proprietary driver for any reason, you have two choices:
  >
  > 1. Uninstall it and use nouveau instead
  > 2. Use X11+i3 and close your browser tab
  >
  > If `lsmod | grep nvidia | wc -l` shows anything other than zero, your bug report is not welcome here.

Furthermore, sway's behavior is to check whether the proprietary driver is loaded and, if so, exit unless sway is started with the flag --my-next-gpu-wont-be-nvidia. It's hostile, childish, and very off-putting to a potential user and contributor.

Technically, I think that they can do that. That’s what the fork button is for. However, if they are willing to alienate graphics enthusiasts, they wouldn’t be getting any respect.

I don’t want to settle for Intel GPU, because I have a clearly superior GPU available (Nvidia). I don’t want to settle for X, because I have a clearly superior API available (Wayland). I have a 4k OLED display, because if it is there, why settle for something worse? I realize that enthusiasts are rare, but it’s us who help iron out the bugs for the newest hardware, and it is sad to see such an alienating attitude from fellow cutting-edge developers.

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