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Generally, Apple MacBook Pro suck since 2017!

Not sure why this getting downvoted.

Had my MBA for 6 years and worked perfectly the whole time, just needed to install a new battery after 4 years but that was a personal preference.

I've had my MBP w/o touch bar for 13 months and I seriously regret spending $2300 on it.

- The keyboard is continually sticking, the left Command key is now completely separated from the keyboard and falls out all the time. I make so many typos now compared to the MBA and people also complain about how loud the keyboard is when Im typing. - The battery life barely lasts more than 2 hours while the MBA lasted 5 hours for exactly the same use case. - If someone trips over the power cable then the whole laptop moves, on the MBA the magsafe just disconnected and no harm done. - Having to use adaptors for USB devices is now getting really tedious.

Im at the point where I doubt my next laptop will be a Mac unless they do some serious adjustments to these ridiculous keyboards. I just want the old keyboard back.

You're not alone, I seriously regret my six month old maxed-out touchbarless MBPro and really wish I'd managed to hold on a couple more months for the Retina Air. Its keyboard hasn't started sticking on me but its battery life is trash, half the time it dies after like an hour and a half while thinking it's at 20% battery so it doesn't even hibernate to disc like it should.

Last week I started migrating back to the five-year-old Air. Would've done it if not for the fact that my home directory is larger than the free space on it, I should try reinstalling the Air from scratch and see if that clears up enough space. Or just look into getting a new SSD for it.

> it dies [...] while thinking it's at 20% battery

This is definitely a manufacturing defect with your battery and you should take it in for warranty repair. It should never do that unless the battery is severely degraded (1000+ cycles)

Yep. Constantly says "service battery", too. I've made and cancelled a couple of service appointments due to Seattle basically shutting down for the snowstorms, hopefully I'll get it there at the next one and they will not wave me off with "oh just reset the nvram, also reboot your computer every week or so!" like they did the first time.

230 cycles, 65% capacity, seven months old.

>Not sure why this getting downvoted.

Because it not since 2017, but since the 2016 MBP. The 2015s aren't perfect, but they were really good. When we had wished the next iteration would itch closer to perfection, they made a bloody mess of it.

I might be the exception here but the 2018 Macbook Pro keyboard is the best I've typed on. It is accurate, quiet, requires very little effort to push the buttons. I don't feel muscle fatigue typing on it.

> and people also complain about how loud the keyboard is when Im typing.

We must not be using the same keyboard. The mbp is quietest I've even used to date. Everything else doesn't even come close.

> The battery life barely lasts more than 2 hours while the MBA lasted 5 hours for exactly the same use case.

That's weird. Mine lasts 8-10 hours. It lasts a good 6-7 hours of daily work, watching videos, compiling C code, playing an intensive game and extensive Chrome browsing.

> - If someone trips over the power cable then the whole laptop moves, on the MBA the magsafe just disconnected and no harm done. - Having to use adaptors for USB devices is now getting really tedious.

The mbp is supposed to be a desktop replacement computer. Get a usb-c hub. You'll be able to charge the device, connect all your devices (and screens!) from one single usb-c. Put the hub close to the Mac. But yes, I do miss the magsafe.

I've lots of complaints about the new MBP but none of the points you mentioned above. I suggest you take it to an Apple shop for some diagnosis.

I like my USB-C/Thunderbolt dock (when it works... for some reason my 2 monitors get flipped about 20% of the time), but when it fell off my desk it took my MBP with it :(

In fairness the new rubber gaskets they added to the keys of 2018 model to prevent dust ingress significantly reduces the keyboard noise compared to previous models.

bought the lowest end macbook pro 2017(coz that's the only one without the touchbar). applecare has replaced(drumroll):

1.Keyboard

2.Screen for weird glitching issues

and now the wifi refuses to connect to 5ghz bands

i use a bluetooth mechanical keyboard now...

> The battery life barely lasts more than 2 hours

There is something either seriously wrong with your Mac, or you're running every core full-tilt continuously.

Same. I've used Apple MBP's steady since 2011. Ever since 2017 it's been a complete mess. I can't stand the new keyboard, nor do I understand their reasoning at all : feels like the decision was 100% grounded in aesthetics, as if shaving off 2mm in thickness is worth a permanently inferior user experience when actually using the machine.

Recently replaced my 2015 MBP for a "better" model and I miss it so much. Better keyboard, didn't have play "guess the dongle" when plugging into a projector at work, didn't have weird wake/sleep issues, etc. I haven't really noticed a difference in CPU, and for the same priced MBP I actually have less storage space than my 2015 model.

But I can share the charger with my phone, so I guess that's nice

2015s were the last good MBPs. I pray daily that mine will last forever.

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