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Can somebody explain what this is supposed to be? (Pet peeve: links on HN with zero context... is there a blog post?)

I select a game, and it just renders gibberish. I get I can use the mouse and WASD to "move", but it just renders glitching vertical bars of random colors in both Chrome and Firefox, no matter what game I pick or where I "move".

The "About" explains precisely nothing except controls to use. Tried on up-to-date Chrome and Firefox on macOS.

It's a 3D-map viewer for some particular set of Nintendo games.

The levels render correctly for me.

I guess the name "noclip" is because the effect is the same as using that cheatcode in quake etc.

Sounds cool. Too bad it doesn't appear to work on Macs? (Or at least mine -- MacBook late 2016, macOS 10.14.3, Chrome 72.0.3626.109.)

Tried opening in Safari too, and the page is just white -- doesn't even load the menu interface or anything.

It's working on my Macbook late 2013 / 10.13.6 / Chrome 72.0.3626.109

Hi, I'm the developer of the site. Safari doesn't seem to support WebGL2, which is why it shows up pure white. There should be an error message, but that appears to have broken at some point. Could you press F12 and tell me what the console says? I don't have a Mac myself, so I can't debug.

Chrome should be working. If it's rendering gibberish, could you go to http://webglreport.com/?v=2 and tell me what "Unmasked Vendor" and "Unmasked Renderer" say? There's a known ANGLE bug on AMD/Mac that I need to work around, but it causes performance issues so I try to limit it to platforms I know are broken; it sounds like you have a configuration that isn't in the whitelist.

Safari shows the red bar error message now.

In Chrome:

  Unmasked Vendor: Intel Inc.
  Unmasked Renderer: Intel(R) Iris(TM) Graphics 540

And on your site, immediately upon loading the console is giving me 29 different 404 errors across different filenames like:

  VM208:1 GET https://storage.googleapis.com/znoclip/z.noclip.website/j3d/smg/ObjectData/Hanachan.arc 404
  (anonymous) @ VM208:1
  i @ string_decoder.js:135
  e.getModel @ string_decoder.js:135
  c @ string_decoder.js:135
  e.spawnObject @ string_decoder.js:135
  e.spawnZone @ string_decoder.js:135
  y @ string_decoder.js:135
  ...
  string_decoder.js:135 Could not fetch archive 
  j3d/smg/ObjectData/Hanachan.arc 404

Hope that helps. Good luck! :) The idea sounds neat.

The 404 errors are to be expected. Several users have reported an issue with the Intel(R) Iris(TM) Graphics 540 chipset, but unfortunately as I do not have hardware to test with, I am unable to debug it. But I suspect it's a driver issue. Let me try a few different ideas based on something I read online.

EDIT: I attempted to push one workaround. I cannot test it here, so please let me know if it helped.

Glad you're trying to fix it! Just emptied my cache and refreshed but no change in Chrome or Firefox, sorry... happy to check again in the future, just click my profile and e-mail me directly there

Bummer that drivers are that sensitive... I remembering the nightmare of dealing with different browsers/OS quirks for the HTML5 audio API, but at least I could test everything using virtual machines... graphic cards sound like a whole other level of hell. I had no idea.

Just came back to this out of curiosity... it works now! However you did it, thanks :) super-cool!

Also having the rendering problem on Mac for some but not all levels (Zelda OOT is broken, Banjo Kazooie works okay):

Unmasked Vendor: ATI Technologies Inc. Unmasked Renderer: AMD Radeon Pro 555 OpenGL Engine

What's interesting is that it worked on my computer before reinstalling MacOS on new hdd, and now it stopped working, showing malformed geometry.

JS console output: "Batch 2 does not have TEX0. WTF? / Attributes: 600 index.js:14" (and the same for different batch ids) ATI Technologies Inc., AMD Radeon HD 6750M OpenGL Engine

I broke the workaround for Mac AMD accidentally in the process of trying to fix Mac Intel. Should be fixed now. The "Batch 2 does not have TEX0" message is a normal warning for Luigi's Mansion.

Same here.

FF and Safari don't work at all. Chromium shows something, but it isn't clear if I am seeing what is intended as the site has little to no information as to what it is.

It's supposed to look like a video game level. There are a lot of different hardware configurations. Could you please go to http://webglreport.com/?v=2 and tell me what "Unmasked Vendor" and "Unmasked Renderer" say?

For Firefox, could you open up the console with F12 and tell me what that says as well?

Does not work on any web browser I have tried in ubuntu. Even disabled adblock.

Do you see an error message? Do you see anything in the console if you press F12? What GPU are you running?

Probably gpu issue, because I am running some really old gpu. I will check when I get home.

Oh hey, I've seen this site. It's a pretty neat tool, and I'm especially happy to see Switch games like Mario Odyssey and Zelda Breath of the Wild already present here.

The fact it all runs in a web browser is incredible.

Still, is there any background behind this project? Curious to know what inspired Jasper_ to create it...

It started a long time ago as a port of an old tool called bmdview2 to the web called "bmdview.js" as a way of learning WebGL and graphics. A bit later, I wanted to see levels from Ocarina of Time, so I created a tool called "zelview.js". Both of these original tools are still online, but they might have bitrotten by now.

I created more and more tools like this until I decided to combine all of them, and noclip.website is the result. It combines my love of video games, reverse engineering, high-performance graphics applicationss, and pushing the boundaries of the web. Other people seem to enjoy it too, which is always a huge motivation booster.

I don't see anything happening. Just a black screen for every game that I select. I'm confused...

Mine is white :-D !

Safari on iPhone if it helps anyone

Could you press F12 and tell me what the console says?

I no longer see the black screen but I still get this error: Loading failed for the <script> with source “https://www.googletagmanager.com/gtag/js?id=UA-35480078-3”.

This is amazing.

I can't believe how stunning some of these level's look on what seems to be very little processing. If the "Statistic's" panel is right for example, the entire Shadow Temple in Ocarina of Time 3D is being rendered in just 29 draw calls and 8104 triangles and honestly it looks better than half the games that come out today.

I feel like level design isn't quite as clever as it used to be.

I mean, I'm cheating a bit. These levels don't have any of the actors or interactive elements per-room. The lighting and animations are probably the biggest thing that contributes to the "stunning" quality -- try turning off vertex colors in the Render Hacks panel.

I just replayed ocarina of Time and I'm pretty sure the Forest Temple map is mixed up with what looks like the Spirit Temple.

Great work! Very cool to see these games come to life on my phone!

This is glorious, I love it

That nostalgia!

This is SO COOL. But I was expecting it to have maps from HL too!

I am not saying that HL invented "noclip", but it's certainly my first experience with that concept, even though I played many other games before that used that name for that concept, and games that implemented the same concept before that name was coined (like "idclip" in the old Doom)

I'll add Half-Life maps to the "to-research" pile, though it can take weeks to research and implement new games, so I can't make any promises. "noclip" is a term from general gamer culture which is why I chose it, despite its origins in the Half-Life and Doom engines.

Thanks for the suggestions :)

Goldeneye and Perfect Dark too?

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