The Secret to Becoming an Annoyingly Productive Early Morning Person
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In all seriousness, I'm thinking about starting a "night company" for night time people. Come in at 2, work until 10. Is there anybody out there who'd be interested in something like that?
Usually in bed around 2.
Now in 2019 at the same age (9) letting my step-son do the same would be considered by a lot of parents to be borderline child abuse.
I’m treating him the same way my parents treat me, if he wants to make his mum a cup of tea (novelty hasn’t worn off) I’ll let him (with supervision at a distance), I’m not coddling him at his age I had full access to my father and grandfather sheds/garages and tools - by comparison a kettle isn’t a big deal.
Whereas, when I grew up, pretty much from 7+ you were expected to be able to go visit your friends, get to school, etc. without all the ceremony and scheduling required today.
That's the problem.
It's like, when the sun is down, my brain is ready to be super productive.
Do you feel you spend quality play time with your kids as they grow up?
Do you feel you get enough time to be intimate with your partner?
So instead of answering these, because your list of tasks that imply my life is deficient by your standard could go on forever, it makes more sense for you to argue whatever position you are taking directly.
i know people that dont do the math, and actually work to pay for the daycare...
One parent staying home to avoid paying for daycare will generally permenantly depress that person’a income, long after the kids no longer need daycare. Even if you’re just breaking even on working with paying for daycare, you’ll make more money in the long run after you stop paying for daycare.
There's also a reason why we see them from privileged (usually white) people in cushy careers (or in pursuit of such), and we don't e.g. read a black single mother, walking up at a 5am everyday and working her ass off two jobs till late, just to make ends meet blogging such BS...
With me it comes and goes. I have nocturnal periods, mostly when I'm working on some project and 'normal' periods when doing a lot of customer work. But as soon as I'm on my own the night habit kicks in. I just love it when the whole world is quiet.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/25/style/sleep-problem-late-...
According to Dr. Walker, about 40 percent of the population are morning people, 30 percent are evening people, and the remainder land somewhere in between. “Night owls are not owls by choice,” he writes. “They are bound to a delayed schedule by unavoidable DNA hard wiring. It is not their conscious fault, but rather their genetic fate.”
Is it too much to ask for to wake up naturally, exercise a bit, have a solid meal, then get down to business when I'm ready for it rather than having a stressed out mad scramble every single morning?
I'm a night owl myself, but around 10 years ago I've accidentally switched to the 10pm-5am sleep pattern and those were happiest and most productive months of my life. I was waking up without alarm and was jumping out of bed, quite literally. I dream to return to that pattern again and have been trying to do so since then (no luck so far).
The world definitely favors the naturally early riser - and if you're not you're seen as lazy or eccentric.
So every week, I'm forced to choose among activities, as my Tuesday/Thursday 7-9pm are always at least double-booked, and usually triple- or quadruple-booked. I have more than enough free hours in the week to do everything I want to do. It's just that hardly anybody ever wants to schedule anything at any other time.
You're going to have a chicken-and-egg problem getting any number of people to shift away from this schedule.
All in all, my social life is pretty normal with my night schedule. I wake up around the time my wife gets home from work. We eat together and talk and hang out. When she goes to bed, I go to work. By morning, as the rest of the world around me is waking up, I handle any errands or chores and I'm back to sleep by somewhere between 9 and 11am.
The only time my schedule ends up being an issue is when we travel. But then since I'm not working, I actually really enjoy being up during the day. It's just difficult to switch schedules from "night mode" to "day mode" and back after our travels are over. It's pretty much the same thing as jet lag when flying half way around the world. It's a pain in the ass for a couple days, but not particularly detrimental.
Yes, I (and I think many others) would be VERY interested in companies that allow this kind of schedule. Further more, I think you'd find that hiring people who want to work those hours, means you're hiring people who are most successful in those hours.
Nothing sucks more than being a night person, whos brain comes online later in the day, but having to be in your seat at your desk at 9 AM.
I see no reason whatsoever to pursue a 9 to 5 routine. I come in to work at 12 leave by 8-9 and I'm pretty happy for it
Night-owl, morning person, who cares? As long as you stick to something.
With that said- I rise at 5am everyday.
Early riser here, and like some of the night owls here, I also miss out on things. Concerts that go late are hell for me. I’ve adjusted to only seeing the ones I really care about and being fine with not catching the others.
I don't know if it's just the network effects or my preconceived notions, but the whole "business" thing turned out to be not as hard as I thought. I work out of my man cave and have a rack full of quad-GPU machines in the garage (because fuck cloud GPU pricing). I spend about a day and a half per week in my customers' offices (and I charge my hourly rate for commute too). Everything else, I don't even have to leave the house. If I don't feel like working on any given day, I just don't. Today is one of those days.
I now think this is how high-skill CS is supposed to work. Offices are bullshit. You can get easily twice as much done with a little self-discipline if you work remotely, and work will be of higher quality, because you _can actually focus_.
As someone who was around for the first dot com boom you (if you aren’t) should be banking cash/paying down debt as much as possible.
When I contracted on a (after all taxes etc), one for me, one for future me basis and it paid off.
That said it’s a nice problem to have :)
early to rise has some cultural cachet as moral but when have Cool and Moral ever coincided?
Banking and the DMV are pretty much it as far as things-denied-the-night-owl.
plus 8-5? that shit aint early. Talk to some bakers or retail works about waking up early.
A remote first workplace gets the same flexibility you desire (pick your own hours) without any of the drawbacks or relationship problems (it's actually better than the current situation of 9-5 + commute.)
There are consessions with all that but you can work around them as others do already.
Regarding societal pressure, there is. But you need to realise these people are productive, not always successful in hindsight.
There was some article a whole back about how the most influential people in history shave all had one sleep thing in common: sleep was consistent day to day. None of them had any similarity in the hours they kept.
The author hypothesized that this may be an evolutionary survival mechanism that allowed bands of humans to always have people who were awake or more likely to wake quickly if threatened after dark or in the early morning.
For the natural night owls (I am one) the power of a slow morning is just the way we roll. I am so much more productive at 9pm than 9am, and have reworked my daily schedule accordingly.
Yes, it's hard with kids but basically have adopted a bifurcated sleep pattern - 6 hours, wake at 6:15 am, and help with family stuff and do about an hour of non-brain intensive work, and then two more hours of sleep before rewaking and restarting work in the late morning, raring to go. In the evening I can get so much done.
I have my own company, so this flexibility is possible.
This is for people that think like the author and want to do like the author. Everyone else can ignore.
Or just work remotely period, so people don't notice what time you start your day.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/having-this-gene-...
When I freelanced, I used to start about 9 in the evening, work through with no distractions till 4 or 5 and sleep until lunchtime. It was great as I had time to do stuff or laze about in the afternoon, see people in the evening and still do a full ‘day’ of work.
Only backfired when a client insisted on a 9am meeting.
I’ll start getting notifications of task completion early afternoon, continuing into the night. I have to process each task, accepting or rejecting them by morning, to keep forward momentum through the next day. Lots of harmony between my internal clock and the work I do.
There’s just one problem: most companies require me to be in the office from 8am to 5pm every weekday. The constant clash of “my job” (the rigid traditional workday), and “my work” (highly-structured, but very fluid schedules), causes a whole lot of unnecessary stress and unproductive office time. I end up working unsustainably long work-weeks, all due to optics (read: office politics). It’s all very strange to me.
My current solution is to work as an independent contractor, and be my own boss. But this solution comes with a whole other set of (very difficult) problems.
It’s frustrating to never fit into the structure of a company, considering I like my work, I’m good at it, and it fits into my internal clock.
Now I get strange looks when I leave at 3pm.
My employer let's us punch the time clock (we can do it online, too, which means it works with home office). I think you could run a noon to 8pm schedule (being in the office after that needs to be registered with facility management).
PS: My personal (N=1) experience with being a night owl actually is, that I have no problem getting up early when I go to bed early enough. Setting my alarm clock to 9:30pm as a reminder to go to bed helps me a lot getting up early. I don't buy too much into this theory of a night-owl / early bird split in the population, because time is kind of a construct of a watchmaking civilisation. I'd assume sunrise and sunset are much bigger influences on individual's behaviour.
Lots of caffeine though..
Anyway, the clear cut advantage in my mind is that I'd rather be awake when the sun is out.
I'll also +1 the friction removal concept -- laying out my gym clothes the night before really helps me get out the door as soon as I'm up in the morning. Otherwise, I'll tend to want to go back to bed.
I used to be a big caffeine drinker. In my experience the problem with caffeine is that your body's tolerance to it seems to increase and so you need to keep increasing the dosage in order to get the same effect. It ended up being a net negative for me.
I've noticed that the best way to wake up early is simply to go to sleep early. Takes a bit of work at the beginning if you've developed some bad habits but eventually you can get used to it. Seems to be more mental than physical.
Also, caffeine should really be used only for emergencies in my opinion. Like if you've had very little sleep but you still need to be productive. Other than that I would stay away from it. Your body really does not need daily doses of caffeine to function, just like it does not need nicotine nor alcohol nor any other drug (assuming no medical need). They are just net negatives.
Drink green tea if you really feel like having some mild stimulant every day.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18681988 (The combined effects of L-theanine and caffeine on cognitive performance and mood)
From: https://www.thespruceeats.com/caffeine-in-coffee-tea-cola-76...
Caffeine has lots of wonderful effects on the mind and the body. It was essential in helping me switch to an earlier routine: can't go to bed at 10pm if you're not tired because you woke up at noon; best way to be tired at 10pm is to get up at 6am; caffeine helped me get up at 6am.
Cycling your caffeine intake is a great way to still reap the benefits of caffeine without building up a tolerance.
I know nothing about modafinil.
>>Caffeine has lots of wonderful effects on the mind and the body
It allows you to be productive even after not enough sleep. Unfortunately you can only keep this up for so long. In my case I now only use caffeine when I really need it. I'll gulp down three or four cups of coffee if I need to do all nighters. And because I have virtually no tolerance to it anymore the caffeine will work like a charm and I will not feel tired at all.
I've tried this. Doesn't work for me. Seems like my body built a tolerance to caffeine, and no amount of break from it (even a month) will reset that tolerance.
https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/the-latest-scoop-on-the-...
So I've been cutting down and drinking lower-strength of coffee, and more recently tea and lower-strength tea (which is also delicious). There are other delicious things I can eat and drink the rest of the day that don't have drugs in them.
Coffee is one of the, or the best, source of antioxidants in the standard American diet. Barring pre-existing Cardiac health issues there is no harm to daily use as long as you don't exceed maximum recommended caffeine doses, which was around six shots of espresso or equivalent.
Furthermore "In some publications, caffeine and trigonelline are considered to be antioxidants also." There is much more medical evidence that coffee is uniquely beneficial than otherwise.
Just one (of many) sources and source of above quote: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4665516/
The wide use of drugs as performance enhancers in our industry really makes me unhappy and uncomfortable. (I guess it probably exists in other industries too?)
I can't work out how to properly put into words how or why it makes me uncomfortable. But it seems like instead of drawing lines and saying people shouldn't need to take ADHD medication to focus, or modafinil to work unnatural hours, or ambien to sleep on planes, we're just going along with it. Like the work should come first, and of course we should take drugs to allow us to meet work expectations, or to get the upper hand in intra-employee competition, etc.
I've encountered these work environments before and I wouldn't want to again. In my case it was a bunch of young people pushing themselves to the brink hoping to win the startup lottery as early as possible. They didn't of course. I hope your work environment isn't like this.
It isn’t fun some days though.
It's not unusual to feel gut-uncomfortable with technology enhancing the lives of humans beyond where nature left us, but at the end of the day, I have trouble seeing how you can say using modafinil to get your job done is bad but using eyeglasses to get your job done is good.
My claim is that no research exists that argues that modafinil is more dangerous than caffeine. (I'm not 100% sure about this claim, and it's easily debunkable. And for what it's worth I take caffeine and have never taken modafinil.)
Caffeine's cognitive effects are mixed. It's mainly used as an inferior substitute for sleep.
The effects of lifelong Adderall use are not well studied.[1] The effects of untreated ADHD and narcolepsy are.
Emphasis mine.
I think this - right there - seems to be the reason why we continue and probably should continue to give stimulants to certain grown ups.
Wow, pumping yourself full of drugs just so you can be a better cog in a machine?
Thanks, but honestly that's a non-starter. I'm not sure how we got to this point, but please reconsider - some employers might actually look at this and think that's an acceptable thing to suggest to an employee.
For me, not using alarms to wake up in general, and sleeping earlier works wonders. I also adjusted to having less sleep as a result of the forced sleeplessness of military life.
People have wide variations (in some cases, defects) in virtually every physical and mental dimension we can measure. The idea that everyone's body clock is precisely tuned to 24 hours just doesn't seem right, it's far more likely to be within a range, perhaps between 18 and 30 hours. With that logic, I speculate that many "night owls" are people whose body clock doesn't reset properly until 26-28 hours from the previous day.
I would love to know if there are any research studies along these lines.
Generally speaking, no critter's circadian cycle is 24 hours. They are all "entrained" (e.g reset) by stimuli, among which (blue) light is the most well studied. And non-24 hour circadian cycle in people can be diagnosed, and it is possible to be considerd a disability in the legal sense. But it is tricky to get testing, and insurance coverage for testing.
EDIT: I just noticed that the author does commute. Still, I'm not sure I'd be productive if I had to commute an hour each way every day.
That said, I suspect he doesn't have a 1.5 hr commute like many do (and I used to have, at times). Working from home does indeed provide a tremendous advantage, particularly with those quiet early morning hours.
Way less traffic and that cuts my commute down by half. (1hour to 30 min)
And I found I actually like 2-3 hours of no distractions at the beginning of the day.
When I came in at 10am, it was 0-100 almost immediately because somebody always wanted something.
Took me a good month though to actually learn to go to sleep before 11pm. Originally whenever I slept before 11pm, even if I was dead tired, I would wake up at 2-3 am and not be able to sleep again.
If I want to spend my short time on this planet in a more productive way so I can do more in my life, that's my choice and I'm not making a mistake or doing it wrong.
Do what you feel you need to do, but don't pretend like I'm living life wrong just because I'm different.
1. Get in bed by 10pm every night, no exceptions.
2. If I can't sleep after I'm in bed, it means I haven't exercised enough. So, exercise, then GOTO 1.
Downside to this is that it works--after a few days of the cycle, if I try to stay up past 10, I nosedive to half-dead around 10:30.
Turns out that necessity actually forced me to figure it out. I discovered that I can get to sleep if I turn on a movie that I’ve seen many times before because it basically keeps my mind from wandering.
Not kidding at all, for the last 4 months I’ve turned on Avengers Infinity War every night + the sleep timer on the TV. I’m usually out cold before “Launch 17-A” and I never make it past the Guardians scene that comes right after. Also have to sleep on my side.
I’m sure it sounds crazy but it’s the only thing I’ve found that consistently works.
Worked very well, but I think if I tried it now, I would have a more difficult time sleeping with television playing in the background now that I no longer sleep this way.
In my case terry pratchett audio books since some of those I can almost quote entire chapters.
Unfortunately, despite seeing the benefits of the early-morning schedule, over time I reverted back to my night-owl tendencies.
Best of two worlds.
https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/send-...
If I had the luxury of a zen wake up experience, I don’t know what I would do with myself.
No thanks. I'll listen to my body and its rhythms, producing work when opportunities arise. Restricting one's schedule artificially like this seems like a recipe for burnout and misery.
You have no idea how much coffee affects your sleep and energy levels until you quit drinking it. Before I quit drinking coffee, when I got home from work I was done for the day. I had a 'boring' evening routine because I had no mental energy to do anything other than veg on youtube videos and pass out early. Since I've quit, I have the same morning routine, but when I get home the productivity continues into the evenings. I feel like I have my teenage energy again. I always wondered what changed or if it's just me getting old, but no, it's because I started drinking coffee at one of my jobs in my early thirties.
Routine, Discipline and a regular amount of sleep, regular in this case meaning routine amount, not necessarily a lot or a little. That is my takeaway from every single not-worthless article or piece of commentary that has helped me get my own shit together. The actual details generally don’t matter, the actual lifestyle doesn’t matter, and the actual job or field of study doesn’t matter. So long as you have those three elements, you, the general you and not necessarily you specifically, can figure out the rest. The amount of caffeine consumption or lack thereof, whether you shower in the morning or at night or both, how you commute, whether you work from home or not, what you eat in the morning, et cetera. I guess in the case of two or more working adults in the same house, cooperation/division of labor is another key element in that mixture, but I am not speaking from experience, just observation, on that one.
Not to discredit the difficulties of parenting, it is the hardest job in the world to do well, but somehow we’ve collectively increased our population to 7 billion of us and a not insignificant fraction of us generally turn out alright, and the how you go about it matters a little bit less than the why. The parents that are enthusiastic about and enjoy being parents will always be better than the ones that had it foisted upon them somehow, and in that sense, it is just like another job: you learn how to do it, you learn how to do it well, you make it an integral part of your day, and that means building it into your routine so that you always have time to be a parent, that way your kids don’t turn out like those of us where our parents weren’t present and we were background details, distractions, when they were.
Also, discipline is king. Anyone can pull a couple of all-nighters to get some work done but it takes discipline to make a multi-year plan of hard work come to fruition. I have previously considered stopping my studies but I can't accept how my life would look in 5 years if I did this. I'm giving myself a few difficult years to give my future self a much better life.
Your prior commentary that I referenced struck a chord with me because I’m facing facing down the path of a life that in some ways, might look something like yours, actually with fewer pressures, but still enough to seem daunting to me right now. I’ve gotten better about my own time management than where I was a few years ago and still have a long way to go. If you, if anyone, can do all of that and still be there as a parent, then I ought to be able to hold myself to a standard that is at least almost as high.
I’m not sure what I’m saying here, except, thank you for your commentary, your thoughts. In a way that is difficult for me to properly explain here, it helped me to read your point of view before and now. Good luck, for whatever that is worth to you, and I hope the best for you and your kid.
Admittedly, that didn't work when they were toddlers. But once they hit school age, you can certainly figure out a way to make things work.
Ironically, slightly unrelated, but Hindu texts speak that Rakshas (demons) that come out in the night and that the best take to wake and start the day is Brahmamuhurtha.