So perhaps Boeing felt that this didn't really change anything in that regard. They seem to have been proven wrong.
So perhaps Boeing felt that this didn't really change anything in that regard. They seem to have been proven wrong.
* Control airplane pitch attitude manually with control column and main electric trim as needed
* If the runaway stops, stop.
Well, electric trim input on the yoke will stop MCAS temporarily. Of course if these guys had any experience on an NG they're already used to the computers trimming the plane in a counterintuitive manner via the speed trim system (STS). So not only is MCAS not a runaway trim situation, but pilots flying the NG will get used to the computer trimming the stabilizer "at random".
1: http://www.737ng.co.uk/737-800%20Quick%20Reference%20Handboo...
4 If the runaway continues:
STAB TRIM CUTOUT switches (both) . . CUTOUT
If the runaway continues:
Stabilizer trim wheel . . . . . Grasp and hold
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
5 Stabilizer . . . . . . . . . . . . Trim manually
(That bit about grasping and holding the trim wheel was a surprise to me.)This is what the Lion Air crew of the flight before the one that crashed did, in response to the same sort of MCAS failure, and completed the flight without further trouble. While Boeing made a serious error in hiding the differences between this variant and its predecessors, it seems that the prior trim runaway procedure does work for this sort of MCAS failure (unless evidence to the contrary comes out of the Ethiopian Airways investigation.)
I think the problem is that the symptoms are different from other 737s, and if you don't KNOW about the MCAS stuff, that's very surprising. So as humans, even though logically the same procedure applies, instinctively you don't think to do it. And given the very short time frames involved, and the margin of error, it's not too surprising that these events have occurred.
Perhaps the need-to-retrain criteria needs to include the following amendment:
If the craft exhibits new symptoms, even if the response to those symptoms are covered correctly be the old operations manual, pilots will need to be retrained to account for the new symptoms.
No, it doesn't and that's the problem. A runaway won't stop when you hit the trim buttons.
Depends on what causes the runaway. If the autopilot goes berserk, the trim buttons will override it (if I recall correctly, it's been a long time).
So while yes, runaway trim is a thing, the circumstances under which an error could happen are substantially different.
For instance, a pilot could check the maintenance log book and see some work or inspection was done on the auto-trim subsystem. This would prime the pilot to be more on the alert for the possibility of trim misbehavior during the flight. Crisis averted, right?
But no pilot would look at an entry for an AoA sensor being off or worked on, and would think, "Boy, better look out for that safety system I never knew existed that could cause a trim runaway because my previously airworthyness agnostic AoA sensor is unreliable."
Flying and complex system diagnosis in time sensitive conditions requires extensive ahead of time mental model creation ahead of time.
If anything, the process of engineering is most difficult in that answering most questions tends to be straightforward (not easy, but straightforward once you know the right methods to apply), while figuring out if you've asked all the right questions is the thing that keeps me awake at night. If you don't ask and dig in until you've answered it fully, it's easy to get blind sided.
I have difficulty believing it could have gone so horribly wrong now, but I can't deny that just from the information available, even if MCAS isn't the root cause of the Ethiopian Air crash, there is some egregious failures in sound practice going on with Boeing to have slipped up this badly.
That's the thing with sound Engineering, when you do it, it just verks. When you don't...
That's a tall order when the manufacturer doesn't inform their customers out of commercial expediency.
You could choose to select the input that results in the least-worst bad outcome. But that may not bring the total risk below the increased risk of utilizing both sensors. The sensors are doing something purposeful, after all.
So it may be logical what they're doing. OTOH, the logic may make sense only in a path dependent sort of way, after a series of bad decisions that put them in a corner with poor options. There probably really should be 3 or more sensors.
Without any ability to differentiate bad from good input, you may be better off simply relying on a single sensor at any one time and completely ignoring the other, at least as far as controlling MCAS is concerned. Tossing up a warning that says the sensors disagree is another matter.
I agree that one can argue that this doubles the chance of system shutdown compared to properly detecting that one sensor fails. That's obviously only ok if the system is expendable to a certain degree.