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The visa requirements necessitated me going to San Francisco to apply in person, which was a non-trivial expenditure of both time and money.

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That was the idea, just to reciprocate what Brazilian (or Latin American citizens in general) have to do to get a visa for the USA.

One funny part of the implementation of reciprocity is that you could pay a visa expediter to actually deliver the passport and visa request without going to the consulate in person, whereas the U.S. consulates abroad don't allow this option. That means that the reciprocity was often more financial than, well, experiential.

> whereas the U.S. consulates abroad don't allow this option.

I wouldn't know whether this is allowed or not, as I never had use for such a service, but I know a few people myself who used an expediter in Brazil ("despachante") to ease the process of getting a U.S. visa.

Huh! Do you know what the expediter does in this case? Don't the visa applicants still have to visit the U.S. consulate in person for an interview?

As far as I know it has to do with documentation, easier scheduling of the interviews for people who live far away from the consulate, as well as some queueing thing.

Clearly I know very little.

At least in Argentina, from what I've seen from friends hiring them (i didn't cuz i thought it was a waste of money and also i don't trust strangers to give them all my personal data to fill some forms for me), they just handle the same stuff that you can do on your own, basically:

- go to the embassy's web page,

- load all your personal information for the visa application in the web page.

- schedule an interview

- schedule the visit to the CAS (where they take you a photo and your fingerprints).

So, basically, they manage the bureaucratic procedures that happen BEFORE you get to the interview, and give you advice on the documentation you should take with you to prove you are economically rooted to your country (so you won't become an illegal immigrant)...

But you still need to go personally to both the CAS and the Embassy (on 2 different days). So, not really worth it for anyone who knows how to use a webpage.

Agreed. I was mostly noting that "the visa requirement for those countries were a formality" is one hell of a formality when it's multiple days and hundreds of dollars of travel.

It's also worth noting that those "few hundred dollars" represent about half of an average monthly salary for people in those countries.... so, the real cost of getting a visa for people in those countries is much higher in the end.

Exactly like the reverse case. What would be better for Brazil is to waive requirements both ways. This just puts Brazil in a clear position of inferiority.

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