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Why bother? There's no internet in China anyway, whatever hacks you are going to use, the result will be completely random at best and your website working or not there is just a matter of luck.

Even the big IT companies can't make it work so why would you?

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> There's no internet in China anyway

More than 40% of the world's e-commerce transactions currently take place in China. The United States’ share of the market is 24%, down from 35% in 2005.

Yes, on their local Intranet.

Underrated comment.

> 40% of the world's e-commerce transactions currently take place in China

> on their local Intranet

As if AliExpress.com is non-exist outside China?

Many non-China websites are blocked in China.

Yet Chinese websites serves globally.

Think about it.

So it's an extranet then.

It's an Intranet for Chinese users, and western Webmasters.

I wonder how much non-US sites and services an average American use daily?

Much more than they think, there's a lot of big IT companies in Europe as well, they just generally work more behind the scenes.

We've had our own "Intranet" for many services. Its error message usually looks like "Sorry, you can't load this Netflix/Hulu/Pandora/Spotify/Amazon/HBO content outside of the United States." And now there's many sites with error messages like "Sorry, but the GDPR is, like, hard, so you can't access our site outside the US."

Poster might refer to the limited availability of certain Internet services from China - but as your numbers show, it's not preventing China from being largest ecommerce market.

this is why you don't understand how important is china market is. China is getting better and bigger.

That's irrelevant with my comment, China does not have a real legal system, the CCP has full power. Whatever you are building will be blocked if moderately popular to let a local competitor take that space. All these certifications mentioned on this website have approximately the same value as the paper it's written on.

My understanding is that this kind of thing happens within China too, business is run on relationships and guanxi, not contracts. You have 0% chance as a westerner. As a Chinese citizen your chances are only good insofar as you can network and maintain relationships with people.

> There's no internet in China anyway

Uh, what?

China just has a local Intranet and when you are lucky (and increasingly luckier every year) you can access some small websites on the Internet.

No it's not an intranet. Chinese people still connect to the internet.

They've got a firewall around their whole country, not unlike any firewall a corporation might put up to prevent their employees from accessing content the company disagrees with (like viewing pornography/4chan from the network).

Sounds like you need educating on the differences.

They have a firewall so strict that it blocks almost the totality of non-Chinese content, they don't have internet access. What they suggest on this article are hacks which might work if you are lucky, the CCP is blocking more and more every year so don't expect any of these hacks to work for long.

Please don’t equate mass state surveillance and censorship with blocking Xtube from the office.

My point was addressing that he was incorrect about what an 'intranet' is. Read between the lines.

You're right that they do mass state surveillance though.

>> China just has a local Intranet and when you are lucky (and increasingly luckier every year) you can access some small websites on the Internet.

> They've got a firewall around their whole country, not unlike any firewall a corporation might put up to prevent their employees from accessing content the company disagrees with (like viewing pornography/4chan from the network).

I kinda think you just made his point for him. The corporate networks that are walled off in that way are often called "intranets."

Also, local Chinese websites are often significantly walled off from the rest of the internet (though through local-phone-number registration requirements, not firewall rules).

Oh god first line of Wikipedia reads: 'An intranet is a private network accessible only to an organization's staff.'

Please tell me how www.baidu.com is only accessible within China.

"local-phone-number registration requirements" because it's required that it's should be easy to find the real person(account->phone number->id number) for all user generated content

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