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Why do they keep doing this? Making available in a small batch, selling out, make available another small batch, sell out, etc.

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These are refurbished.

Apple had multiple batches in a row that were not refurbished (interestingly, at the same price as these refurbished ones).

Perhaps not all of them were available for Apple Store online inventory. Stock keeping as a science in itself.

These are not refurbished, they are new. It’s a bit confusing because the clearance section is in the refurb section, but these are indeed brand new in box.

I don't know...

The URL says refurbiahed and the page says refurbished in big lettering. The last couple of times when I looked when Apple made the SE re-available, the site didn't say refurbished like that.

Check the headline of the page: “Clearance Products Find special deals on select new and unopened products.” Emphasis mine. Now click on the words “Certified Refurbished” above that. On the page you are taken to from that link, click on iPhone. You will see an entire section of refurbished iPhones, with no SEs.

By the way since when do they directly sell refurbished iPhones???

Maybe it’s old news in the US but it look like it’s the first time I’ve seen them in the French Apple store and it’s actually a great news in itself. I don’t trust carriers for refurbishing, but I’ll trust Apple blindfolded. My next iPhone will definitely be refurbished as were my last 2 Mac.

They have sold refurbished iPhones for years, at least in the US. From my passive observations they hold off on stocking refurbished models for about 1+ year(s) from the release date. For example, the X’s have only recently shown up in the refurbished section.

Apple has maximizing profit pretty well figured out.

Thank you for the clarifiaction.

I've never been downvoted before for saying "I don't know".

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