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It's insane that the two visible options are "Not now" and "Allow notifications" while 99 percent of the time I want never bother me again, in fact disable this feature entirely. I clicked yes exactly 3 times (my own Nextcloud instance, Protonmail and Whatsapp web), I'd be happy to do some more clicking to enable those at the "cost" of never being bugged again.

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> It's insane that the two visible options are "Not now" and "Allow notifications"

I agree the “Never” option could be more visible for some prompts, like notification.

For other things, like location data, where temporal access actually makes sense, I think making the “Never”-option less susceptible to accidental/blind clicking is a good idea.

Then "Allow" should be less susceptible as well.

I was beginning to wonder if I can disable globally by default and have no popups, just manually enable it for a specific site if I want it badly enough (I don't think I ever will anyway).

Of course then they'll start showing weird UI pop ups to enable stuff, but if websites ever do that I will close them as I do with sites that tell me to disable adblock, the last few times I ever got malware on my system was due to ads, I am NEVER turning off adblock. This was many years ago, now I only download FLOSS just to keep it that way.

User script that overrides the API to noop. :)

I'm just bummed the old greasemonkey site is gone (or whatever it was called), it feels awkward trying to find scripts now.

I'm even more bummed the old stylish plugin was really malware

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/07/05/browsers_pull_styli...

Eventually, it wasn't always so but yes that's disappointing.

Open Preferences and search "Notif". There's a blascklist/whitelist and a "no, and don't ever ask" checkbox.

I've always loved digging into the settings when I get a new web browser, IDE, or whatever. I know a lot of people don't bother configuring their software, but it just makes me shudder to imagine living with whatever defaults the vendor sets.

This is a valid point. I just took an inventory of all the notifications I have opted into. For me it is Gmail, Discord, Slack, and a custom built admin interface I use for work. So I have accepted 4 out of the hundreds (or thousands) of notification prompts I see every year.

Making it opt-in would still allow valid use cases for notifications, while not annoying users as it has become for sites that are just hoping ou would break down and accept.

I also hate that the only "negative" option is "not now". Why is there not a "never allow" option?

It's such a passive agressive tactic. It boggles the mind that it's the browser vendors that implemented it. Google spent years blocking popups to the point where I never get them anymore, which is amazing, but clearly they learned a few nasty tricks along the way.

It's not passive.

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