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One constant thing in every country is there is always a narrative among certain percentage of population about how shitty their country is, America is no different, usually the people who feel this way are not nationalists.

If you immigrated to US from third world country you would know how amazing this country is.

It always be your choice to live how happily you want to live, you can quit wanting to climb the ladder, you can quit watching news telling you how shitty country is, you can quit watching TV constantly telling you to upgrade your house, car, phone etc.

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> If you immigrated to US from third world country you would know how amazing this country is.

Yes, compared to the third world country you come from. But that works for pretty much any other western country. It doesn't help comparing them between each other.

Much the same as saying, “If you were unemployed and homeless, you’d know how amazing this job in an Amazon warehouse is.

Look at how many people would rather work here than starve!”

Very true. And yet, there are better jobs with better working conditions. This is not to say that the USA is the Amazon Warehouse of developed countries, but you need to compare jobs to jobs, and developed countries to developed countries.

Not really, people who emigrated to certain European countries with more socialist economy try to get out of there, all my friends who moved to Europe left after 4 or 5 years, all 7 of them are in US now.

Europe is not a country, nor is it third world xD.

Pretty much all Americans and Canadians who came to Germany loved it all and above, stayed here, and build their companies and family around.

I'm no nationalist, but I do enjoy my high paying Engineering job and low cost lifestyle.

I have concerns my pay would be lower and cost of living higher in Europe.

Looking to be able to retire by 32 years old.

People see what they want to see (confirmation bias) and delude themselves and gaslight others into maintaining a great lie. Then there's people who actually go out into the world and are more honest about reality.

I love the US but we're rich enough to have all the amazing things they have in Europe and more (infrastructure, transportation, free healthcare, better schools). But we choose a bloated $1T defense budget, endless wars, and billionaire tax relief.

Totally agree with this. And I lived the American dream. Immigrated to US at 11 and went to Ivy League college. The US has been good to me. It is sad to travel to Europe and China to ride high speed rail and know that there will be no high speed rail in America in my lifetime. Sad!

If the US did not spend what we do on defense, the EU would have to.

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