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Kids will tell you years later that it was wrong giving their data to Google, an Ad company, with core business of monetizing people's data.

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I don't see why. I wasn't using my data for anything so it seems like a win-win if someone will pay for it. Also, NB this phone runs KaiOS, not Android.

KaiOS "now sport official Google Assistant" .. "same OS just received over $20m funding from Google and even partnered with them"

Its the code that runs 24/7 what matters, Android or a few G services is of no difference.

> I wasn't using my data for anything

Browsing, location, contacts, photos of friends, calendar, emails... the lot. Goal is your full psychological profile, skills, circles, reactions, job positions. From as much data as possible. Uses today are simple ad targeting, maybe 3rd party screening checks. Tomorrow?

In the 2 years they use this phone what value is there possibly to be gained??? It's virtually zero value to anyone.

They'll keep their Google accounts, because of emails and logins on other sites, and use them on their next devices, keeping data flowing and attributed.

Hell. They would even browse Internet using Chrome signed in to their G accounts, giving away browsing history (all their secret dreams, interests that even closest people don't know about)

Users on these phones generally don't have google accounts. Of course some kinds of Assistant commands won't work without such an account, e.g. scheduling appointments in your google calendar.

And these phones don't run Chrome at all.

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