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> Amsterdam to Kitzbuhel for a skiing road trip

That's a 10 hour drive! You're genuinely choosing a personal vehicle on its ability to drive literally all day?

I mean, sure. Everyone has their own preferences. But this is a wildly beyond median data point. Most people will take a trip like this once every few years at most. The vast majority are going to look at that trip and fly/train and rent a car in Austria.

Buy the car you want. But arguing on the internet that "I can't use an EV because it doesn't do this one incredibly rare weird thing I want" seems like poor form.

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My family's done this drive a couple times for vacations. Much easier / cheaper than flying and renting with all your gear, etc.

In the United States I routinely am in the car for 8-10 hours each way to visit family, but most of my daily driving is short distances. I don't want to own two cars.

I agree with you completely - buy the car you want. What I am hearing from a lot of folks here though is "I bought the car I wanted (for most of my driving) but I'm also saying it's the same or better on long road trips"

It is not incredibly rare. Many people from the Netherlands drive to Austria and Italy for vacation.

Yes yes, lot of people do everything. The question is whether or not something you do once every two years (my educated guess based on that kind of trip frequency per net passenger car -- and I live in the western US!) is a critical requirement for a passenger vehicle to be driven every day.

There are all sorts of things your car can't do that "many" other people do. All I'm saying is stop the nonsense that pretends this is specific to EV's.

This is the logic that demands everyone have a pickup truck, or 4WD, or passenger van, or, hell, private aircraft. Use what you need. But (1) don't pretend that what you need is what I do and (2) be realistic about what you "need". Like, seriously, you really can't take a train to the Alps? Seriously?

Right - the thing I am rebutting is this from the original parent quote:

> "The Tesla Supercharger network, combined with its ability to charge on CCS charging networks like Ionity, make it uniquely suited to long distance travel."

I don't know when you last tried to engage in winter sports and public transport, but to carry all that equipment to and from public transport is a lot of work. Even with Ubers at either end of the train, it's still a lot of work shifting all the bags.

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