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On the other side of spectrum there are those people who "really want to learn real programming" but you have to do all the work for them. You point them at the resources, contribute ideas and it turns out person is not following through even though when they talk they are enthusiastic.

So basically you have to somehow spot right person to spend time with, and it is hard. At least guys that don't want to be mentored are not time sinks.

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This too, I’ve also worked with people like this, it is extremely frustrating to teach someone who wants to be mentored not take your mentorship advice and continue to make the same mistakes.

The counter argument here can be that I possibly may not have mentored the person in the right way using the right motivation, but methods I tried were (ranked in succession):

1.) Showing by example but asking to come up with own examples 2.) Templating examples 3.) Listing out steps 4.) Finally just directly asking to do x, y, and z

Utilizing data patience time boxing.

This is definitely a difficult problem I don’t particularly have an efficient solution to, my best answer is just find someone to mentor who will execute

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