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I was already a bit mad at them for removing RSS support and claiming their proprietary service that's built in is an alternative, now their proprietary service keeps working (presumably, I didn't use it but it's not an addon so I doubt it's signed the same way) and I can't use the RSS addon.

I know this was a mistake, but I can't help but be mad that their proprietary built in stuff effectively gets a free pass and special treatment and meanwhile I can't use RSS and all my containers were deleted (those didn't come back after the study was pushed either).

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Never hear Mozilla claiming anything about a prioprietary service being an alternative to add-ons. The reason for which built-in RSS support was removed is that it was much crappier than the add-ons available.

Doesn't solve your problems, though :/

Pocket was promoted as the replacement for RSS. Pocket is a closed source SaaS product, despite the fact Mozilla now owns it.

Huh? When was it promoted as a replacement, by whom? It’s not even in the same product category/

RSS aggregates updates to websites without needing to check them. Pocket takes an article you have open in your browser right now and saves a local offline copy on your phone. They’re apples and oranges. Apples and orangutangs, even.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/13/17446660/mozilla-firefox-...

This sounds a lot like pushing it as an alternative to RSS to me.

That interview with the Pocket CEO never mentions RSS.

(Disclaimer: I work for Mozilla but not on any functionality related to this)

How odd to construe an attention-grabbing headline for Mozilla's official party line. As another comment said, RSS isn't mentioned once — actually, it is, but it's an advertisement for the Verge's own RSS feed.

You’re being obtuse. At no point does that mention RSS nor describe anything like RSS at all.

If I was not being generous, I’d think you were being intentionally obtuse to justify a preconceived opinion.

But whatever. I work on that very product.

Here (see "other alternatives"): https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/feed-reader-replacement...

I can't find the link right now (I could swear I commented on the article here, but maybe I'm grepping for the wrong things in my comments), but in one of the blog posts where they announced removing RSS they advertised Pocket as the alternative that was still built in. Their RSS support was pretty terrible, but even so this sort of attitude was infuriating already, and now to see it have a leg up because they get to own the platform and the app just puts me over the edge. Not to mention that I have to dig through like three levels of settings to disable the damn thing and remove it from their stupid cluttered home screen every time something happens to my settings in the mobile version (which is alarmingly often).

I like Mozilla as a company, but I desperately wish there was an alternative sometimes. Anyways, sorry for the rant, I'm done (for now).

Found at least one place, though I don't think this was the post I was thinking of, pretty sure that was a blog (see "other alternatives"): https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/feed-reader-replacement...

LiveMarks really is a fantastic addon to bring back Live Bookmarks functionality. That said, I've always been a fan of native browsers for their inherent advantages. Never felt the desire to use anything else, unless it has significant usability improvements. Phoenix/Firefox was always that browser for me. I usually suggest people use their native browser (Edge/Safari), and if they want an upgrade, to go to Firefox. With all of these recent debacles, it would be hard for me to not suggest the new Chromium-based Edge to Windows users and crossplatform.

I use containers too. I didn't loose any data after I enabled dev mode and added the extension back. Perhaps you removed the existing extension first and lost data that way?

It's odd - on my laptops, my multi-container settings were preserved, but I opened firefox on my desktop last night and they had vanished. I did not remove any add-ons myself.

Same here.

Only difference is that I restarted the desktop Firefox and also enabled Shield studies to get the temporary fix. On the laptop I just upgraded to 66.0.4 and only then restarted it.

I did not disable or remove the extension, my containers were just all gone after the study was pushed and extensions came back.

To the best of my understanding, here's what happens.

* containers.json is reset to default

* if you have any non-default containers, they are lost

* the underlying data is still in IndexDB (??) but isn't connected to the custom containers that were wiped out

* if you're clever and can read the IndexDB (or wherever the data is, it's moved a few times) then you could probably rebuild your containers.json file

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