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hardware specs? They usually very outdated. They didn't update the air processor for like 4 generations.

The hardware specs are "meh" at best, but the build quality is still better than the competitor..

I have a newer Thinkpad for work, and it feels cheap and plastic compared to my MBP. The Lenovo creaks when I pick it up with one hand, and just feels flimsy. The MBP feels solid and integrated.

I'd love a 2013 MBP with modern components.

My X1 Carbon, which cost as much as a 13” MBP, has a plastic sticker for a bezel. It’s now peeling off.

Good lord, I knew the newer Lenovo models were underwhelming but that's their flagship premium model. That's utterly unacceptable.

It's their thin-is-better lighter-is-more-important model. In the traditional 14-16" size, the T4xx/T5xx devices do what they are supposed to. A changable battery (while running, without tools) enables you to do things like swapping an empty battery for a full one, either by plugging in shortly, using a secondary battery in the case, or briefly shutting down. I don't want to carry that much energy with me all the time, but I still want the option to use the device without having significant downtime. A short break is fine, but that's 5-10 minutes, not 30+ for charging the battery.

I believe the hot-swappable batteries are a goner on the latest T series machines.

Thinkpad doesn't say much. What series? Thinkpads range from supermarket offer bin to mobile workstations like P1.

It's a P52s.

The fact that it matters is part of the problem. All of the Apple laptops feel solid and well put together.

They have a price point where they can be made solid and well put together. Lenovo also sells cheap laptops of lower quality. Not sure why that's a problem. Or do you think people shouldn't be given cheaper options?

There are way too many options across too many series. I don't know how people even choose, much less a layman.

> Or do you think people shouldn't be given cheaper options?

This is a cheap rhetorical tactic.

Sure, there's lots of models to choose from and potential for analysis paralysis. That's not what I understand the OP was complaining about though.

Don't use the same name for the quality product and the flimsy product.

The Air is an exception—it was in this limbo where it looked like it didn’t have a place in the product lineup between the MacBook and MacBooks Pro. A couple of exceptions is hardly “usually.” The other lines are updated regularly with whatever is the latest in October.

12" MacBook hasn't been updated in 2 years.

I didn't mean Apple's are always top-of-the-line. Only that specs are usually close to the top of customers' criteria.

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