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Greenpeace etc have their hearts in the right place... sabotage though doesn’t help. Japan pays lip service and mostly ignores them. China will not take kindly to any interference. I can’t see them even trying.

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If people won't respond to reason, should they be reasoned with? The danger of ego and the id.

Yet still the danger grows nearer.

how does Japan pay lip service? I can only see that in terms of whaling, otherwise they seem to be a fairly clean country? Please point to more information.

I’m only speaking to the interaction between Greenpeace and Japan, which is mostly concerning whaling. Japan kind of reluctantly puts up with their behavior. China won’t. They have near zero chance of making any impact in China.

Perhaps a Greenpeace ship needs to be attacked by Chinese on live TV in order to gain momentum?

We need eco-martyrs too.

It won’t affect them just like when Russia poisons defectors abroad on foreign soil. Lots of noise and complaining but nothing can come of it. They’re too big.

Not just too big, they are outside of the US sphere of influence, while Japan is a client state really.

We should still shame reprehensible behavior.

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