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Isn't violating Unreasonable Search and Seizure on a Massive scale illegal?

This is where they use Third Party Doctrine which basically means "if you give information to someone else, not involved then obviously it's not private!"

Which essentially means that law enforcement can collect info from your ISP, cell carrier, grocery store, banks, and anyone else without a warrant because it doesn't qualify as a search.

It's a completely broken mindset but there has been zero effort to reform it from any political party.

Yes, that holds water if there is some point where a citizen is selecting to waive their rights to privacy. Interacting with a company as a private citizen does not change the fact one is a private citizen. Without a citizen waiving the right to privacy, such an action would constitute a violation of one's rights. There's effectively no way to "opt out" of clandestine information harvesting and that is by design. Even worse, the intelligence agencies release the tools they created quietly so that they can't get in trouble in court because they're using tools that are "publicly available" lol. give me a break. civil liberties are not being demanded by the people and will likely die as a result.

Yes. Government lawyers may try to say otherwise, but the Constitution is very clear on this.

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