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I look forward to hordes of teenagers pushing back against this - wearing hats, burkas, sunglasses, excessive makeup etc. etc.

At least, I sure hope they will.

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It's already against the rules to cover your face in many schools. Besides, if the system can't recognize you, you will be marked as absent - so the punishment for defeating the surveillance system is the same as the punishment for breaking the rule it's intended to enforce. Those teenagers are dependent on the civic involvement of adults, they can't save themselves.

If the system is subject to false positives, students will figure out a way to exploit that, e.g. marked as present when absent via 'masks', Mission Impossible-style.

> If the system is subject to false positives, students will figure out a way to exploit that, e.g. marked as present when absent via 'masks', Mission Impossible-style.

I can assure you, the teams of PhDs from Stanford and MIT will address those cases. Just like how Google knows if you're clicking random ads.

I assure you that teams of PhDs have been working on it for years, same as with, e.g. cryptography. It's just a hard problem [0].

[0] https://cyber.harvard.edu/cybersecurity/Why_Information_Secu...

In the 90s/2000s we were taunted with a nefarious “permanent record” that recorded all our evil deeds. Do they still use that on students? It even came up in a few Simpson’s episodes.

Somehow I haven’t seen anyone actually be negatively affected by this supposed record.

'Internet' replaced the permanent record' and now kids who act up enough to get news coverage end up with a permanent record of whatever they did.

One minor difference: The permanent record was an official document. Twitter mobbing is a failing of our private citizens.

They will, but the school will just make policies outlawing clothing that covers facial features (or may have some already).

If they outlaw burqas, they can face lawsuits over religious freedom.

Perhaps so but there’s no legal protection when wearing such clothing for non-religious reasons, as would clearly be the case here.

What do you mean by non-religious reason? What about non-Christian holidays that are school days? Is that non-religious?

Has this been decided in jurisprudence?

Not everyone uses burqas, and trying to argue for religious freedom when you're using headwear in bad faith is not a particularly good idea.

So?

New York's MO is "screw over people now and settle out of court in 10yr if you think the precedent isn't gonna go your way."

A lawsuit or twenty won't stop them. It's not their money.

I’m pretty sure a simple grape inside each cheek will mess up the facial keypoint lookup

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