China Prepares to Drop Microsoft Windows, Blames U.S. Hacking Threat

It's a clusterfuck of problems: https://itvision.altervista.org/why.linux.is.not.ready.for.t...

Or we were too relaxed during the 2nd phase, until Russia annexed Crimea, Iran kept sponsoring their terrorist organisations, China started building military bases in the South China Sea to intimidate its neighbours and it's general secretary went on to hint at annexing Tawian by force. I'm not surprised that the current US administration is taking action against China. This should have started in 2014.

Except that we are heading toward 3 antagonistic blocks. A western democratic capitalist block. A Chino-Russian illiberal capitalist block, and an islamist theocratic block. With additional internal tensions within these blocks like in the good old days of the cold war.

I really think that social media and the broader internet has accelerated the collapse of the old world order. The institutions that were owned or partly controlled by a small minority no longer have as much control over national narratives.

There will be a period of chaos as the old world and new world duke it out.

Let's not forget that China has blocked access to its market for US Technology companies for the last 10 years.

This is not China playing the same card. This is China playing aggressively, as they have been.

It's a smart strategy, don't get me wrong, but let's not claim the US as the initiators of these market-distorting actions.

And Google seems to be able to pull it (Fushia). The only real objection I can think of is how you convince hardware manufacturers en masse to write 4-6 drivers when they only needed to write 1-3 before.

Oh wow so should be food, fuel and other stuff. Then we can call it a day and start a WW3.

We are at peace because we depend on each other.

Hopefully not. A healthy competition is better than Microsoft monopoly. If China could spend billions of dollars on an open OS and make it compatible with major windows applications, it would be better for everyone. This is challenging because it involves huge amount engineering and testing effort, and Microsoft/US is likely to use restrictive patent/technical standards to contain it. But China is probably the only one with the ability and willingness to make it happen.

US will get its head bitten off. China still does business with the rest of the planet. Trump's "us or them" at some point will lead the 'free world' to say a royal "screw you, we go with them".

I disagree with the way that Trump administration is handling things. Making more noise to cover the previously-made-noise is a downward spiral/slippery slope, and he's on it.

China (aka Chinese People) will not suffer, because they will just not. They won't feel the 'pain' of losing 20% of their income if that happens. People living in the USA on the other hand, they will feel a 20% drop much harder. It is a sprint for Trump administration, but a marathon for Xi's and Vlad's administration. I fear that we haven't seen the worse part yet.

In the short term yes. In the long term, i'm not so sure. If no revolution take place in China, they might come out stronger in ~20 years.

[edit] Also this trade war is gold for the propaganda. While the wealthy/educated people don't buy it too much, it helps Xi and his government with the "mass", thus strenghtening his power.

Forcing China to create their own version of anything did not work out for the US. Remember when they banned Intel to ship CPUs for China's supercomputer? The end result: new CPU from China, Intel had to let people go because of the reduced amount of revenue. I suspect this trade war is going to result in a new Chinese OS and some other projects like that. At the end they will enter with these new products to the global market. Essentially unless the US gets every single country to ban Chinese products (which is unlikely) they just created more competition for themselves.

And what do you think that will do tactically? It doesn't diminish the intrinsic geopolitical positions of both nation-states.

Both countries, honestly, should be "fine" without the same levels of trade we've had in the past. Per capita GDP is to the point where trade can be diminished whilst maintaining relatively stable growth. The problem is primarily, IMO, to do with world tensions & world peace.

Your current presidential administration is not the norm. Most countries keep highly knowledgable/connected people from one administration to another, without changing them despite different political colors, especially diplomatic administration.

Trump did not name enough ambassadors, and everything turned out pretty well, no? That's because US ambassies work pretty well w/o any ambassador. Those are just prestigial distinctions, the workers don't really change. At least in France, there is at least 5 power: the administration is the 5th, and it should not be underestimated.

Get the feeling Linux is a bit too "secure" for them.

yes - but the chinese govt has a large initiative in a custom built linux distro called Red Flag.

Red Flag was made mandatory in a lot of public access points like cyber-cafes.

that is an atrocious and absolutely wrong claim that had no basis in reality but has screwed over the deepin folks.

What the creator of that video identifies as 'spyware' was telemetry of the app store because it was built with web tech (cnzz, the chinese equivalent of google analytics). Calling it spyware given that we're talking about Chinese users is clickbait of the worst sort.