I'm curious where all these concerned westerners were when hk was undemocratically ruled by the Brits as a colony.
Were they ignorant of what they meant at the time or did they not care so long as others were ruled by their own?
Were they ignorant of what they meant at the time or did they not care so long as others were ruled by their own?
Which is something I learned about in the Western media, by the way, and that it would be nearly impossible to learn in Chinese media.
Also the claim that these protests were caused by foreign influence is wrong and insulting. It also echos what the higher-level CCP members have been saying.
Citation needed. Also, the UK is extremely famous for intentionally or unintentionally leaving a mess when it leaves, any sane government will not just let the British do whatever they want.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/18/opinion/india-pakistan-pa...
> nearly impossible to learn in Chinese media
It is also nearly impossible to learn anything about the opium wars in Western media, or how the governors of HK are all appointed by the British monarch directly. So I guess we are even here.
> Also the claim that these protests were caused by foreign influence is wrong and insulting.
Then what is this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Endowment_for_Democra...
BTW he/she said "largely encouraged".
Here ya go (he has further citations at the bottom if you're really interested):
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/...
Regardless of whose fault it is, it doesn't have any bearing on whether or not the people of HK should have self-determination.
>It is also nearly impossible to learn anything about the opium wars in Western media, or how the governors of HK are all appointed by the British monarch directly.
I don't know about that, I learned about it in high school. Here's a more recent book and review about it:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2018/07/02/book...
>Then what is this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Endowment_for_Democra....
>BTW he/she said "largely encouraged".
So the existence of the NED proves to you that a large portion of the protestors in Hong Kong are foreign-influenced? Okay. Personally, I think it's more likely that they're concerned about their rights and it's insulting to say otherwise.
It appears Britain only tried to give them democracy when they knew the writing was on the wall. That seems disingenuous to suggest it was China that blocked them.
While technically true, if Britain truly wanted to help the Hong King people, they would have offered citizenship and let them immigrate, like Portugal did for Macau.
Instead, the British tried to stop Portugal from doing so, because they didn’t want to offer the people of Hong Kong citizenship.
I definitely think Britain should have offered citizenship. I'm surprised they didn't want to.