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Fair. My understanding is that in each generation HALF of the males have their genes exterminated. In "12 Rules for Life", Jordan Peterson says that human female choosiness is the reason why humans evolved faster than chimpanzees, so I guess this is for the best.

I suspect this is why rates of male suicide are so much higher than female suicide. Why bother to live if you are genetically unfit?

Women know this. I suspect this is why the rates of postpartum depression in women is nearly twice as high when the baby is a boy. They know there is a high probability that their baby is destined for a life of suffering.

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your statement about suicide is incorrect. Females actually attempt suicide more often than males, but males tend to use methods which are more likely to succeed.

I don't mean in any way to downplay the genuinely deep suffering experienced by many women, but everyone knows that many such attempts are cries for help rather than genuine attempts.

The fact is that men successfully kill themselves at much higher rates across all cultures.

> Women know this.

Do they?

Of course they do. Females are hypergamous. Through no fault of their own they have been genetically programmed by evolution to desire the highest status males. Studies have shown that women rank 80% of the men on dating sites as "below average".

It is understandable why people would downvote an emotionally sensitive issue like this, but suppressing the truth is not a good long term strategy.

> (females) have been genetically programmed by evolution to desire the highest status males.

You do know that this is not a good reason to declare most males to be beyond hope, I assume? Status signals and impressions are highly pliable. And the more self-aware "females" (...Why not just say 'women', I wonder?) are about what drives their attraction from that POV, the more you can actively play with and subvert that dynamic. It's loads of fun, actually!

Yes. There is an entire industry devoted to teaching men how to trick women into having sex with them.

If you just want to gratify yourself, there is plenty of opportunity.

I don’t think that any of that will change the 50% rate of extermination of men.

Peterson is a hack, and 12 rules is trash. Don't get taken in by that crap.

Yeah. Personally, I think Peterson is in the business of offering false hope to the condemned. A useful service to the elites. But the evidence is the evidence. Suppressing the truth is not a good long term strategy in the age of the internet.

Do you really think "false hope" is more common than "false hopelessness"?

Have you experienced having a woman you loved and who genuinely seemed to be in love with you get pregnant by another man and try to convince you that you that you are father?

There is nothing "false" about the hopelessness that you feel when this happens to you.

Do you not realize your reality might be a bit warped by this life altering event?

~50% of males have their genes exterminated each generation.

Their experience of reality is probably very different than yours.

That does not mean that their reality is not real.

If you are not part of this group, congrats on winning the genetic lottery.

Their reality may indeed seem very “warped” to you.

But the probability is high that either your sons or your grandsons will experience this warped reality as well.

Ok, but could you please not post unsubstantive comments to HN? There's no information here, just name-calling.

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