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That’s added friction. Every standard username/password form takes me only one click to enter into my password manager. Your timing based approach also adds uncertainty. What if the second form is different now? What if the first request doesn’t finish in the specified delay time? When dealing with credentials, I don’t want to think about any of those things.

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What if the one-page login has a change that requires two tabs to get to the password field, instead of one? This has happened to me on multiple sites.

What if the one-page login is changed to require additional information? At least one airline loyalty program I belong to now requires User Id, Last Name, and Password to be filled in.

Credential-collecting workflows have myriad ways to break the "standard" of USERNAME<tab>PASSWORD<return> that are present regardless of how many pages the workflow spans.

Then I complain to them that their site is garbage.

I just spend <1 minute to update the login procedure for that site in my password manager and don't think about it again, continuing to log into all sites the same way, with a hotkey to perform auto-type for that site.

Which of us is happier?

High-pedantry groups like programmers are odd, in that they display this emotional state where they have nothing but complaints about how crappy the world is, yet they seem inwardly smug and happy about how they're clever enough to know better. Is that misery? Is that happiness? I'm in one of those groups, and still, I don't really know for sure.

I'm happier never thinking about logins. And I don't have to. My misery of uncertainty is elsewhere in life.

> At least one airline loyalty program I belong to now requires User Id, Last Name, and Password to be filled in.

Ha! Yes AA’s login field requiring both your name and id is annoying but United takes the cake for asking you “secret questions” on every login and you have to pick the answers from a 10-choice drop down.

I didn't remember that it was AA. And ultimately, that's my point in all responses to this article.

I don't know the login process for specific services I use. I don't know what they require or how many pages they are. It takes me less than a minute to configure a login sequence. And it works.

So, to me, none of these login workflows are broken. And the games of "yes, but" that others (not you) are playing is silly, because people are trying to tell me I'll be frustrated doing a thing that has decreased frustration for me for years.

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