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iOS Firefox is not really Firefox. It's a Safari skin, because Apple doesn't like competition.

Not that I want to defend them, but it does have a nice side effect that web developers must run their sites in some browser other than Chrome (even if they ignore Firefox).

So much of this. Too bad many people who love Firefox don't get how important that Apple decision is for survival for non-Chromium browsers..

Safari is a webkit browser, off of which Chromium/Blink is a fork. So, it's not really a point in favor of real diversity on the web.

There have been enough divergences between Webkit and Blink that I wouldn't consider them the same engine anymore, just like I wouldn't consider WebKit and KHTML/KJS to be the same.

non-chromium browsers only matter if the owner in question actually has any incentive to give users more control. Apple exercises even tighter control over their software than Google.

Firefox matters not because it's "not chromium" but because it's firefox, a non-profit dedicated to an open web.

Firefox matters because they're dedicated to an open web, but Firefox is usable by the general public because web developers are forced to support multiple engines if they want to work on iOS. These are two different things and both are important.

(Note: I've been running Gecko based browsers almost since the beginning. I guess in those days it was probably easier to use a browser that isn't perfectly supported, but I'd probably do it again if it came to it. But I can recommend Firefox to whoever I want, since it works on every site except Linked In. I couldn't do that if it only worked well on one in two or three or four sites.)

Well Apple has a built in content blocking framework for iOS. Chrome doesn’t....

Do you have a link to back this up?

Its not actually safari, but it is webkit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox_for_iOS

> Unlike Firefox on Android, Firefox for iOS does not support browser add-ons. Additionally, it uses Apple's Webkit rendering engine, rather than Mozilla's Gecko.

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/48382150/do-all-browsers...

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