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Its for your security for gods sake, stop complaining. If it saves just one life, n all that

Please don't post flamebait to HN.

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Allowing home searches without warrant, mass surveillance without limitation, limits on free speech with criminal penalties, arresting reporters and torturing them to reveal sources - these are all things that may save just one life.

Let's not forget: "Think of the children!"

Is a rapist or predator lurking in your neighbourhood? Now we have a drone watching him 24/7! Also it's watching you and your children to make sure everyone is safe. Coming to an Amazon delivery near you!

I think you needed the /s

The police kills more people in the USA then all terrorists combined (about 1000/year).

More people die from choking on food every year in the USA than die from terrorism AND police.

This is a silly comparison. Terrorist can kill 30 people in one attack or even break down a whole building with a bomb. When did 30 people choke by one piece of food?

And we don't have another 911 may because of mass surveillance. Shall we try removing the surveillance to see whether terrorist attack increases?

So it's worth it to you to spend 100's of billions to stop 30 hypothetical deaths? Ok. You're allowed to have that opinion. I'll vote against it every chance I get.

30 hypothetical death is for 1 terrorist attack. Why would terrorists only attack once?

I don't know. They don't seem to be attacking any place even once. And yet all this money is spent...

We don't have another 911 because it was a tactic that could work exactly once. No pilot/crew/passengers would stand idly by and hope things work out in another plane hijacking because they expect they're dead either way.

When I say another 911 I didn't mean another exact repetition, I meant another terrorist attack on large scale.

Maybe spending untold billions of dollars on a mass surveillance state that cows the population into authoritarian submission is a phyrric response to the threat of terrorism.

Terrorism which is exacerbated by our own shadowy geopolitical agendas...

And it's ludicrous to say "We shall have a mass surveillance system or mass terrorism!", as if security theater revealed the actual effectiveness of such actions!

Do you love giving Leviathan the sword it stabs you with, the whip that scourages you, and the mouth which mocks your humanity?

"cows the population into authoritarian submission" ? I don't see this happening at all. There have been countless protests against the Trump administration, and the main stream media has being criticizing the Trump administration every single day. Please give me an example supports your projection.

Yet somehow we have concentration camps for women and children with people dying in them. Funny how that works.

since when is someone dying because of what they did as bad as someone else killing them?

Stop giving ideas to the American war barons! One of these mornings we'll awake to "Operation Freedom Choke: Liberty in your throat".

Operation "PATRIOT" Act... choke or you're dead.

but most of those are older then 74yo and it is not really someone else that is killing you on purpose... like the other 2 cases

What if terrorists blow up a retirement community? Are we just not supposed to care ‘cause they old?

not saying that, but someone close to his life expectancy age chocking on his food, that can almost be considered a natural cause of death, no?

it is just accidental death versus police killing on purpose...

Even more people die from heart attack due to unhealthy diets but that does not justify any police killing.

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