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China Muslims: Xinjiang schools used to separate children from families

bbc.co.uk

75 pointsmetaphysics16 comments

It's unfortunate that the CCP feels the need to commit such atrocities to preserve their rule and stability over the region. A more appropriate government for one with such cultural and regional diversity as China would be a federated one where minorities and ethnically distinct regions see representation at the highest levels of government, and this representation should lead to stronger rule and stability without the need for such violence. Furthermore, doing so should strongly dampen the nationalist desires of these regions. But of course, the CCP is ideologically opposed to self-representation.

"But of course, the CCP is ideologically opposed to self-representation."

Don't think it's to do with ideology, just desire of a small cabal of people to have absolute power and control over a country and everyone who lives in it.

The ideology is a pretext.

Coincidentally, I watched this vice news documentary earlier today that shows the current situation in China: https://youtu.be/v7AYyUqrMuQ through undercover reporting.

This is so unreal. Resembles so closely the novels we read in high school. The Giver and Nineteen Eighty-Four come to mind. Prisoners feeding rehearsed lines to the media about 'enjoying' their incarceration.

This is sad, but not hacker news. I'm not visiting this site to read about politics

Here's the technological aspect of how China oppresses the uighur community: https://www.theguardian.com/news/2019/apr/11/china-hi-tech-w....

Terrifying stuff, it literally is straight out of a black mirror episode.

The sheer scale of this is facilitated by technology. We should all be wary of what we build.

I was surprised it was flagged but per the HN guidelines[0] "Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon"

This surely counts as politics, hence the flag. But also something new and vile, and facilitated by tech. And there's been enough of carefully looking the other way this century and last; we know the consequences.

[0] <https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html>

I don't understand why people say this. Human rights abuses are "politics"? Why is this politics?

Kind reminds me how un-Interneted Chinese people categorize things:

- Say China did something bad: "That's political and with intention to 'slander' China, so we shouldn't talk about that"

- Supreme leader changed the national constitution so he can basically be a emperor: "Oh that's an internal adjustment of power, and btw we shouldn't talk about that"

Politics is the negotiation of power. Aren’t human rights abuses inherently related to matters of power?

This post now says flagged.. Why would a story like this get flagged?

Agreed. Funny how some things get flagged so very fast. If this story is true it does matter.

> the evidence points to a parallel campaign to systematically remove children from their roots

IIRC other countries inc. the UK (I'm a brit) did similar for the same reasons. It wasn't ok then and it isn't ok now.

Why is this flagged?

Posts about Xinjiang/China are being flagged by users. There's another post about it. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20337797

Can moderators do something about this censorship?

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