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The guy probably has infected machine... which is far more likely than MS runing ad farm

Have you used windows 10 recently? I didn't realize how bad it was until I installed a fresh copy of windows 10. My backup windows machine has so many registry patches to disable the crapware that I didn't recall how bad it truly is by default.

every day on my laptop and my desktop pc. all runing without disabling the telemetry. laptop has 5hrs of battery daily, pc is runing fine. Except when i open chrome... chrome eats my ram

I meant no disrespect, I'm/was curious to know about your experience with windows. Personally I use linux distros 95% of the time and notice a significant increase in battery life and decrease in ram/cpu utilization compared to when using windows on the same system. ~8Gb (or more) vs 2.4Gb for the ram and 80% cpu utilization vs 10-15%. I'm curious how much of that difference is the background processes installing candy crush etc. But good on you if your system meets your use case and what not.

edit: clarify utilization I've experienced is cpu

That's interesting, most people (myself included) usually find poorer battery life on laptops, often substantially worse.

The reasoning boils down to power management, but using linux cuts an hour or two off my laptop's battery life.

Originally I had terrible battery performance like what you are describing. I have a dell xps 15 9560 with a 97Wh battery. With bumblebee installed with proprietary nvidia gpu drivers I can get all day battery life no problem (easily 10+ hours of active usage). The same cannot be said for when its booted into the windows partition. Yes this is because of the gpu settings but why would windows need to utilize it with everyday tasks like google docs or casually browsing the web? It took some work to get the battery under control but after I did some reading about drivers and bumblebee I didn't have any problems. Been on this install for a bit over a year now without any show stopping issues.

I've been using windows for the past 15 years. First 6 as a normal user/gamer then as a developer with php then as .Net developer. I do use linux but only on servers/vms. I've had the occasional issues with windows, not gonna lie, it's far from perfect. But i've rarely seen CPU hogging when idle. One time i can recall is when the windows update service was doing something and for few hours i had 80+ % cpu usage then it updated and it stopped. And one time something was wrong with the search indexing service, rebuilding the search cache fixed that issue.

As for ram, i have no problem of windws/apps using all the ram i have available, that means they will hit the disk less often and be snappier, in most cases

Ads in the start menu and on the lock screen are apparently perfectly normal to end users now. It's honestly just sad.

But these weren't ads on the start menu. He was talking about ads in a web page that the browser he chose to run (Edge is now the standard browser, not IE) displayed.

The unmodified login screen sometimes features ads. Have only seen stuff from MS itself though.

"Show suggestions occasionally in Start" in the useless redundant new settings app is something that should be a completely optional component and not intrinsic to the operating system.

I mean the pictures are nice, but it is personalized by proclamation, so they have to farm at least some data.

All this stuff needs to be patched out yesterday in my opinion.

I don't see any ads on my W10 machine and I haven't done anything to disable them. Where are you seeing this?

In the start menu. It could be that there are different definitions of ads. But on my windows system I get ads for games and other applications that they want me to install. I think they even install some of them like candy crush without asking me first (I disabled this in registry). Figured companies pay microsoft to promote their apps.

https://www.theverge.com/2017/3/17/14956540/microsoft-window...

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3039827/7-ways-windows-10-pu...

Despite of having a smooth upgrade/update from 1803 to 1903 (which for first time in my case carried group policies and tweaks done with 3rd party tools) I also still had to do the various tweaks in registry, mostly with help of rights elevation tool because with standard administrator I couldn't do a literal, pardon the word, shit because MS has decided I shouldn't tamper with stuff, settings they decided are best for me.

We have all the proof we need that MS is running an ad farm from the base windows experience. What proof do you have that he was infected with malware beyond that?

And what is the proof?

Where's that proof? I also run windows 10 at home, no issues with cpu or ads. The build servers at work? Same. no IE cpu hogs, no ad farms ... That's why i think this is some malware that has gotten by, and not ad farm.

From my other comment:

I see people talking about ad farming - but this seems like for whatever reason IE was opened - and it's default home page is MSN, which has ads.

Where are you getting ad farming from?

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