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Comment by throwaway8879 | Hacker News Reader

I would advise everyone to be actively paranoid about security/privacy issues. Nobody is on your side. Every corporation and state actor will screw you over if it comes to that. It is human nature to feel comfort knowing that "someone" is on your side. Nobody is, however attractive and privacy-hip Apple pretends to be.

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Considering that you can actively monitor network traffic and, essentially, prove that Apple does not send your data (at least in any unencrypted form) to their servers, they seem to be talking the talk when it comes to security and privacy. I'm not even sure how Apple could screw you over "if it comes to that" when they don't have access to the data in question. The encryption being used is end-to-end and the only person that has the key is the user. Unless you duplicate passwords or share them with people, your data is unreadable by Apple.

I understand all of that, but still am willing to be in the Stallman or tinfoil-hat conspiracy nut camp just to be safe. I'm too old to be actively trying to figure out whom to trust, and whom not, especially since there are so many actors involved. So it's best to distrust everyone.

We can have a discussion about which life jacket brand is the most reliable, and what advanced underwater-breathing technique we could practice, or the hundreds of ways to save ourselves from drowning. But the only way to be absolutely certain is not to get into water in the first place.

That seems paranoid and fearful to the point of being paralyzing. I'm sorry you feel that way.

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