Hacker News Reader

Comment by FloatArtifact | Hacker News Reader

Great for self hosting even on a single board computer or on traditional server hardware.

Pretty cool, but anytime I see something promoting Debian anymore, I can't help but think it is probably outdated and cumbersome to create and manage packages, especially compared to Arch or Alpine, and definitely more bloated than Alpine.

Bleeding edge has never been the point of Debian, it's one of the most stable and well tested distros out there. Things are upgraded only when necessary for the most part.

I've been using Debian for more than 15 years and it has always been about stability. I use it for desktop use (office, mail, web, games). In the past, the stability concern meant, indeed, sub par desktop software but since the last two releases, the desktop is really good and stable. As I'm getting older I don't want to spend my time administering a system and Debian (and all its packages) have now reached a very good maturity level. Sure it's not bleeding edge, but the stable baseline is really good new. (and my PC is now ten years old).

So don't judge too fast. Debian does a really good job now, even for desktop usage.

Arch isn't bleeding edge either. It has always been stable for me and extremely easy to administer, but I have the benefit of actually having the true latest stable packages that you consider bleeding edge, but they are in fact stable just like they are called when they are released.

sure ! I wasn't advocating for Debian per se, it's just that it is the one I know...

seeing how all the programs have evolved makes me so happy. there's a real alternative to commercial OS, at least for me :-)

Absolutely. 'Stability' is a meme. Forget trying to get modern ML stacks to work on debian, probably still shipping Python 2.4, CUDA 2... no thanks.

Reply on news.ycombinator.com