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Authorities Investigating 4chan Post on Epstein's Death

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27 pointsAndrewBissell25 comments

"The 4chan thread was first found by Konrad Iturbe, a developer based in Barcelona who was researching conspiracies surrounding Epstein online." First found? Its not like 4chan is an AI or Bots.. what do they mean by first found..

Right? It was technically 'first found' by the first 4chan user to read it.

This information was in the public interest - that 4chan user was doing a public service by releasing information relevant to the public: a.k.a journalism.

Further, with all of the oddities around this case, if there was in fact a conspiracy to kill Epstein, the release of this information at that time may have prevented authorities from altering the narrative around this incident.

If there was any reason to believe that the authorities were "altering the narrative" or trying to hide information then I would agree with you that there's a case for this being a pretty valid case of whistleblowing.

Given that the death apparently occurred an hour before the post and a news outlet reported it less than an hour after it that seems like more of a stretch.

No real way of knowing, but it seems likely that OP was just trying to achieve notoriety through their access to privileged medical information. I'm not really ready to cheerlead that, especially if it muddies the water with any ongoing investigation regarding (unlikely) suspicious circumstances.

> If there was any reason to believe that the authorities were "altering the narrative" or trying to hide information then I would agree with you

Most of the US disagrees with you on that one. They have since the polls predicted Hilary would win in a landslide. The authorities and the press constantly lie about even the little things now. Why should we trust anything they have to say?

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You can try to make this about partisan politics all you want. It doesn't apply here. The polls are either right or they're wrong. And they were wrong. So massively wrong that Hillary supporters were blindsided on election day. That sort of thing shakes even the most steadfast authoritarian.

edit: This cracks me up. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20688904

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> You made it partisan here:

No, I didn't, nor did I implicate anything near what you're suggesting. I'll thank you to stop putting words in my mouth.

> Do I hear a dog-whistle?

Thank you for reminding me why I stopped posting here.

4chan is too low status for what their posters do to count as journalism /how authorities actually reason

wrong. journalism requires paywalls

And then clickbait ads once you get past the paywall.

This surely won't fuel the theories that powerful politicians killed Epstein.

That was happening all on it's own. This is an attempt by the authorities to paint 4chan (and by extension, 8chan and the rest of the internet) as unreliable, not worth paying any attention to and even dangerous (gasp!). It won't work, but I'll give them a B for effort.

The title is wrong according to their erratum footnote:

> The FDNY conducted a review of the the 4chan post. A previous version of this post said FDNY conducted an investigation.

I too would investigate an extremist site such as 4chan.

> "There's serious consequences for those violations. Discipline. Suspensions. Civil penalties"

Too bad there will be no consequences to folks who took the guy who _attempted suicide_ once already off the suicide watch, turned off the cameras, and left him alone for an hour.

Nor for the mainstream press who will memory hole this story by Friday.

It remains to be seen. What you described is exactly what happened though, that's just truth. Whether someone murdered him, or he was conveniently allowed to commit suicide, it's just as bad, and just as much a sign of corruption in the government. I keep seeing people argue that if it turns out that he really did just commit suicide, then the conspiracy theories about murders must not be true. But that's completely false. Epstein simply being able to commit suicide is every bit as much of a sign of corruption and criminality within the government, as someone sneaking into his cell and murdering him.

Shout out to you: "TrUmP DeFeAted IsIS" well the pentagon says otherwise.

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2019/08/06/...

Sometimes I wish America could be more like Hong Kong.

Sometimes I wish America could be more like America, the idealized version. HK has plenty of corruption of its own. Chances of survival for someone like Epstein are markedly lower there.

I meant just in terms of protesting.

I can't recall a recent (within my lifetime, actually) case when protesting (here or anywhere else) has accomplished much.

The HK protests quickly succeeded to stop the proposed law.

It's too early to say if they "succeeded to stop" anything. Could be that they just postponed it.

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