The Mysterious Death of the Hacker Who Turned in Chelsea Manning
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Whether the cause of the kidney failure was related to his diet or to some external actor is unable to be determined due to the decomposition of the body when they found it.
RIP
This gives me the impression that he was dead for quite a while before he was found. If that's true how do we have a precise date for when he died?
In all honesty, Lamo did a lot of drugs in his earlier years and in his later years he was overweight... I suffer from similar kidney problems at just age 27 so it is honestly possible that he simply died of natural kidney failure from our supremely processed American diet.
Based on this evidence, I am relatively confident that Lamo died from acute toxicity that was accelerated by advanced stage kidney failure.
The cause of this kidney failure is almost without doubt due to the quantity, type, and lack of purity of all the internet drugs he was taking. He was obese at the time of his death, stealing pills, walking with a limp, and falling asleep in his food according to the people he lived with before he was evicted and transfered to a different apartment by himself.
He also hurt his leg on the night of his death and likely ingested a "normal" dose that for most people would be fine, but for a kidney failure patient would be deadly.
I am confident that he had kidney failure because his serum creatinine score was 55x above normal. Mine is just 3x above normal and I already have to eat a really restricted diet =0
When I was in hospital for my kidney transplant one of the patients in my bay was an older man who was self dosing with zinc and due to a reaction with his prescription meds had a total shut down of kidney function.
I dont want to get the units or numbers wrong, but I remember it being something like 55 mmol when a normal score is 1mmol. It's been almost a year since I read the report in full. The examiner said that his creatinine score is higher than lethal injection recipients, hence the speculation about foul play.
Very interesting story you relayed~~ the kidneys are an incredibly sensitive organ compared to the stomach or lungs, it seems!
I suspect living out in the country and with the USA's medical system he may not have wanted or be able to access suitable medical advice.
So I would guess he wasn't that far along, relatively speaking, if it wasn't immediately obvious at a glance.
maggots can tell us that. And there are the last messages sent also, that will help a lot to narrow the date.
If the data obtained by maggots predates the last messages we could expect foul game (sending messages after their death would need some explanation), but this is probably not what the researchers will find.
Care to elaborate a bit?
Strictly speaking, I "independently investigated" JFK's death. Of course, my mother was still in diapers when he was killed.
<tin foil hat> It seems Lamo being deceased in a necessary pretext for detaining Manning, and so perhaps the IC community knocked him off to keep her imprisoned.
Also weird that you go from "likely" straight to "necessary".
I'd known the guy since 1999, and even back then, in the hacker circles, he was making enemies and pissing people off just by being a bad person in general... Seems like a text book suicide candidate, or at least, a self-abuse through substances type. I mean, his parents threw him out in his teens...
Last time I posted this here I got downvoted to hell and back. Feel free to do the same.
It's honestly still a controversial opinion. Lots of people died from an Arab Spring that was kicked off by Libyans learning the State Dept's opinion of their government. The resulting revolutions wave left a trail of bodies but didn't make much change.
The State Department keeps its opinions secret for a reason.
This is a truly bizarre claim. You really think the popular uprising in Libya was caused because a different country criticized their government?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libyan_Civil_War_(2011)#Backgr...
FTFY
> The resulting revolutions wave left a trail of bodies but didn't make much change.
A lot of the lack of change can be attributed to that same State Department. Secrets for a reason indeed.
Do you have a source for that? Look at the chats on wikipedia. The chat starts with an introduction then immidiately mentions access to classified networks.
Really, this is reaching.
'May, could, if, likely, might, could'
How many weasel words can you cram into one hypothetical?
How about: It is possible that had Lamo not turned in Manning that we have no clue on how things happened past that point because it didn't happen.
>According to the documents, Lamo then placed a second call — this time to a business partner, a man named Chet Uber, and he told him what Manning had said. The business partner immediately left a message on the Army's Criminal Investigative Division tip line. That was on May 23, 2010, just two days after Lamo and Manning began their fateful exchange.
Any idea as to this motivation for the type of behaviour?
Must we rewrite history?
If she was there of her own volition, there would be no need for guards, and doors, and locks, and for people who took her away to have taken her away.
She would just walked into the prison when she wanted on her own terms. (unlikely)
It's only voluntary if the doors are unlocked, the guards are gone and you still chose to be there. The whole reason she's there is because they want something from her, it is a legal form of blackmail.
Someone making something you don't want conditional on something else you don't want either, does not make the situation voluntary.
To me he looks very sedated or on something for sure
Edit: Apparently it is, hadn't seen this before: https://youtube.googleblog.com/2018/02/greater-transparency-...
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-09-14/missing-wikileaks-ass...
Valeriana root is a sedating but also has the effect to slow the ratio degradation of substances on liver. The liver is coping with more substances/drugs etc on a given time and the result is like a tetris effect. Drugs do not have enough time to exit the body. I assume that this could lead to overdose even with a schedule of taking supposedly safe doses. Drugs accumulating in liver could eventually lead to hepatic failure and overdose. Liver and Kidneys are related so if the liver is too busy could just send more unprocessed substances to kidneys to be discarded in urine. High doses of drugs arriving to kidneys could make them fail.
At the same time the victim would be sedated and probably not able to react, wake up and go to an hospital
I'm guessing you mean something else there. "Physician"? "Pathologist"?
In one of his answers[1] he posts a disclaimer saying he used to work with federal agencies:
"The writer is a convicted felon, and has worked closely with federal agencies on national security investigations. Yes, I think it’s weird too."
Wish he'd stayed around longer.
RIP
[0] https://www.quora.com/profile/Adri%C3%A1n-Lamo
[1]https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-that-the-FBI-CIA-and-NSA-co...
Just watched an ad on football tonight about how they're pursuing the truth.
My suspicion is that you're only noticing it because they're in the public eye, and so reported, but the actual number of people dying of unexpected causes is not that remarkable.
Sometimes you really need a public trial to air out the laundry, and now that's not going to happen.
these kinds of things can't be made concrete, and thus i'd say it's a waste of time and effort to pursue such thoughts, just as it's a waste of time and effort to pursue other views, like speculating about less tin foil hattish circumstances of his death.
the medical report is clear up to a point it can be. anything after that is just speculation unless direct concrete evidence can be provided.
that means, that this post isn't anymore far fetched than people speculating about less conspiracy based items. it's all a bunch of guesses, and there won't be a final answer unless someone pulls some proof out of their hat.
it's better to spend time on things which do have an answer instead of speculating on past events.
may the dude rest in peace and let that be the end of it.
To manage this stress wouldn’t it follow you’d see increasing rates of self-medication through drugs, alcohol, over-/under-eating, etc. within this population?