I think what raggi said is that there are no good _open source_ _complex_ async _apps_, mostly because when people are writing open source they tend to write libs, not apps, or end up not working anymore at the problem before it gets really complex.

I've worked on a commercial, complex, async codebase with raggi and have to agree that there is a way other than callback-hell, even for complex evented applications.

In my personal opinion, even more so on ruby than javascript, but I don't want to get to that really.

edit: changed asterisks to underscores because I didn't know they'd be italicized