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> Why do you, of all the people in the world, get to decide what is and isn't absurd?

I get to decide what I think is absurd, because:

a) I'm free. b) I would still value my opinion as good enough for me even if I wasn't.

To think otherwise would be absurd, and the irony of being told this by one who wishes to impose their view upon others else they be othered is, at the very least, amusing.

> It is if how I wish them to act is to care about minorities

You're running around in circles now and thus, there is little point in continuing.

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Why do you even bother to share your very free personal own opinion if you can't argue it in a broader context? If you're going to pose something as a general objective idea, then backpedal and defending it as only your very own personal views which you are entitled to hold but really if they have no bearing on the general context of discussion you might as well not share it because who wants to hear this?

It appears that you are misinterpreting the form of my argument because you don’t understand how people who aren’t authoritarian can hold an opinion of their own while it also being valid generally because we don’t need to impose them on others, its authority comes from its truth not who I am, which is why you also fail to understand the retort. Thus, my opinion is good enough for me. Only you think it’s backpedaling to point out what should be obvious.

If you’re so keen on educating yourself then you should start with Orwell and move on to J S Mill.

Ahhhh awesome, so when you were talking about your perspective on the interplay of sex and gender you weren't implying that there was anything inherently, objectively absurd about there being 42 sexes, you were just implying you felt that was absurd for some... personal reason? By the way, there's probably way more than 42 since so many things play into sex characteristics, and some of the measures are continuous rather than discrete.

> You're running around in circles now and thus, there is little point in continuing.

By saying there existed an "overwhelmingly binary" sex spectrum, you implied the existence of a minority, so I'm simply saying to give those people the respect they deserve. That's how I "wish them to act" so it absolutely follows, based on your words, that someone who doesn't "wish to act the way you wish them to" doesn't want to respect those minorities. Easy logical reasoning to follow.

No one is arguing for disrespect of anyone so there's not much else to say about your argument, other than you might try showing more respect to those you disagree with in future.

You think you aren't, but you are when you say the categories of "male, female and 3rd sex" are appropriate for simplifying the "absurdities". You should show people who fit in your "absurd" minority sexual categories with more respect in future.

Whether or not they are absurdities is obviously a contention, and hence, whether or not they are being disrespected.

It's not contentious that you should show people you're in discussion with respect, nor that you have not shown said respect.

So do you believe they're absurd?

Please don't do tit-for-tat flamewars like this on HN. The further they get to the right of the page, the nastier and more repetitive they get, and curiosity has been lost long ago.

You guys have been going at it in other subthreads too. That's not what this site is for. In the future, please take a step back and refrain.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Please don't do tit-for-tat flamewars like this on HN. The further they get to the right of the page, the nastier and more repetitive they get, and curiosity has been lost long ago.

You guys have been going at it in other subthreads too. That's not what this site is for. In the future, please take a step back and refrain.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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