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For those who don't know, John Brockman, the founder of The Edge (https://www.edge.org/memberbio/john_brockman) was deeply involved with Jeffery Epstein:

it's unfortunate, but worth not shooting the messenger on this topic.

He's talking about our transition from orange to green on the Spiral Dynamics model of psychological / spiritual evolution.

That's probably best discussed on a platform that doesn't have ties to Epstein. He was their largest source of funding for years: