Short discussion from 2014: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8341074
Even shorter from 2017: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15859854
Related though frivolous from 2009: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=438970
Even shorter from 2017: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15859854
Related though frivolous from 2009: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=438970