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> The US is reaching out and nabbing him on the flimsiest of pretexts; more a process crime than doing anything material.

Allegedly actively assisting a US military member to a) crack other military passwords, and b) work with them on covering said attempts is a mere "flimsy pretext, [not] material"?

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Maybe you feel that is worth thousands to millions of dollars spent hunting down a man for 10 years. I doubt Assange would have been aware of that sort of technicality and it is highly likely that something else would have been fabricated if they didn't have that as an excuse.

From memory he didn't even succeed on the password front. The 'crime' here is an incidental non-issue compared to why the US has been hounding him.

> I doubt Assange would have been aware of that sort of technicality

Wait, elsewhere, and repeatedly, it's been noted just how intelligent Assange is, and (hence) how out of character the disheveled, slow person who appeared in court is. And I have zero doubt - he has repeatedly showed in interviews that for whatever potential personality flaws he may have, or personal opinion of him, he is, indeed, very well educated, intelligent, and smart.

So this? Fails the smell test. Fails the reasonable person test.

Someone as intelligent that - you believe it is "doubt[ful]" that he would be aware that aiding an active US military personnel in cracking passwords for accounts on classified systems, and encouraging them to use/try other credentials for covering tracks on the access of classified documents and their removal from external systems... it's doubtful that he would realize that that was possibly going to be viewed as a serious crime by the US?

I don't buy _that_ for a moment - throughout those chat logs there is multiple references to covering tracks, to covering bases on how to act, react, what to say or do when questioned, etc. - that is not someone who is blissfully unaware of the crime which they are (allegedly) committing, or aiding and abetting.

Telling someone to Google a publicly available tool is hardly assisting in any criminal way

And if he stopped resisting, he'd have the opportunity to test that view in a court.

As we have seen, "stop resisting" is a sure-fire way to have yourself turned into a chemical zombie by the state that's supposed to be protecting you.

I doubt very much that the 'rational approach' of giving oneself up to the very people whose crimes you've been revealing is going to be a productive way to continue the effort of revealing crimes against humanity.

> As we have seen

We have? Where?

In mmjaa's fevered imagination. To him, Assange's reported lack of clarity in court is proof that the state is chemically lobotomizing him. Actual evidence has not so far been presented.

"mmjaa is insane" - ah, there we go, the standard response for anyone challenged by the thought that, perhaps, they're not living in as free a society as they think - especially when all it takes to get someone chemically lobotomized, is to challenge their sanity.

Lets come back to this in a few months when there will be evidence of Assanges' torture by the UK on behalf of its masters in the USA, presented to the relevant authorities.

Remember this: Medicating people with psychotropic drugs designed to radically alter their minds, against their will, is a crime against humanity.

I am not saying you're insane. I'm saying you are jumping to conclusions without evidence, that is, that you are making stuff up. So I keep asking for evidence that supports your conclusions, and your response is "there might be evidence in a few months". That's... not very convincing.

It has been widely reported that Bellmarsh medicates its political prisoners. It has also been reported by everyone who sees him that Assange is medicated.

Where? They're either really good at censoring Google, or you're talking out your hat.

Maybe Big G's in on it too.

Pro-Assange accounts are indeed being censored:

https://classconscious.org/2019/06/29/protest-at-twitter-hq-...

There is a media block (the UK can do that quite simply) on any reporting about Assange's health and conditions in Bellmarsh:

https://www.opednews.com/articles/Media-Block-on-Assange-s-T...

There is a definite campaign to torture/brainwash Assange while he is in Bellmarsh, as discovered by a UN investigator:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_94lj_bosc&t=3s

Your link about treatment "while he is in Bellmarsh" actually relates to the psychological trauma from locking himself inside the Ecuadorian embassy.

The rest is unsubstantiated conspiracy theory.

Every western political dissident since 1950 has been subject to mind-altering chemical lobotomies for 'the sake of their mental health'. Anyone who pays even the slightest attention to the way dissidents are treated in the West can observe this for themselves. It is the norm to heavily medicate dissidents and those who proffer undesirable viewpoints against the powers that be - "he must be insane" is the standard repose for those having their crimes revealed.

All you have to do, is pay attention. Julian even predicted it would happen to him personally and warned us.

Look at the David Shayler case, for example. He was in the Bellmarsh brainwashing pipeline before Assange, and the same thing is happening to Julian.

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