> all the stuff in your dwelling, etc., all from capitalism

The value of those things depends on whether they were produced in ways that takes externalities into consideration ie. I fear we're destroying the ecosystem to create those.

You haven't made clear where you stand on that, and it's crucial to understanding each others positions. I'd be grateful if you'd address that.

re. enron, from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enron#2001_Accounting_scandals:

"Enron used a variety of deceptive, bewildering, and fraudulent accounting practices and tactics to cover its fraud in reporting Enron's financial information"

That doesn't fit in with what you said.