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It's not ridiculous. It makes complete sense that in 2019 Microsoft would want its customers to have Microsoft accounts that you log into with to run the operating system on your hardware. Nearly everyone has internet connections, and Microsoft surely seems to think enough of its customers do.

Apple's mobile devices run an operating system that has this same requirement with the same bypass. MacOS also prompts for a password during set up. Android phones prompt for a Google account on set up.

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>It's not ridiculous.

Its not ridiculous if you think of an operating system as a tool for generating profit for microsoft.

It is ridiculous if you view an operating system as a tool to serve only the users needs and not suck all of your data up for advertising.

How is this justified except in the "everyone does it" sense?

The OP isn't justifying the policy (you can decide whether it's justified), merely explaining one reason why a vendor would want to do it. Then providing examples of other vendors doing it.

The OP is attempting to justify the policy when they say "it's not ridiculous". Obviously, it is ridiculous.

Oh, I can think of many reasons why vendors would want to do it. But that doesn't make it less ridiculous from the perspective of everyone else.

Please post this in every thread about Apple and Google.

I agree, so we should rag on them.

Android isn't as bad as windows. There is no requirement to sign in to a google account for android. I simply installed f-droid and continued using my phone. There are some improvements that could be made, the calendar app requires a google account which is annoying and arguably the play store should allow installing free apps without an account.

Highway robberies also make complete sense when rationalized from the robbers' perspective, but it doesn't make them any less ridiculous from everyone else'.

"in 2019" is not a valid argument.

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